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^ You need to drop your HT Link speed in order to unlock the 4th core. I had a hard time unlocking until I found this very obscure link from an extremely hardcore OC forum:

http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=45;t=000669

Since Athlon II x3 450's of the C3 revision are fully functional quadcore Propus dies with the 4th core unlocked to meet market demand, you should have no problem unlocking. However overclocking isn't that great on these boards - I've been able to boot 4ghz just fine, but I can't even run a Cinebench cpu benchmark (never mind even booting prime95) until I'm below 3.8ghz, and I can't boot prime95 until 3.6ghz or lower. A 20 minute prime95 test, or just a single pass, is only feasible for me at 3.5ghz, and I was able to get 8 hours on it as well; others have gotten up to 3.6ghz, but generally I believe the max you will reach with these cores is 3.5 to 3.6ghz, and this is generally around 1.45v, with additional voltage up to 1.6v not even netting an additional 100mhz.

On the plus side (or minus side if you look at it that way) you should have no difference in overclocking 3 cores vs overclocking 4 cores.

Temps stay pretty low on them, that won't be a limiting factor (read: stock cooler is all you'll need). hyper212 is sweet, but it may actually do more harm than good because tower setups don't provide cooling like the stock setup (which blows down on the motherboard vs towers which blow 'through'), meaning you may need to figure out ways to keep your northbridge, RAM, and VRM cool.

CPU-Z reads as Phenom B50 (a model not actually sold) when you unlock, but other programs like CoreTemp should recognize it as a Propus 650. As it is a Propus die, you won't have any L3 cache to unlock to begin with.

Makes one wonder if maybe you should just get a lower speed Athlon II x3 like a 425 which has more potential and is a Phenom (or whatever athlon ii x3 that has good potential). Although the 450's nice stock speed is a definite bonus. The 450 shines in relatively low power usage, low temps, and 4 cores compared to other athlon ii x3's at comparable speed.

edit: to note, it may simply be a HT link speed multiplier, as I've gotten higher than 1.6ghz when I set my bios to 1.6ghz, and then increased the FSB so that my HT link speed consequently got higher. But I haven't tested this out fully yet.
Edited by Belial - 3/9/11 at 6:25pm
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Thanks for the link, I'm trying a few things now.
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Dropped HT link speed to 1.6 Ghz, set ACC to All Cores @ -2%, still no go. Still going up with voltages though...
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Set everything back to stock, and then simply lower HT link speed to 1.2ghz and ACC to "auto"? If you have to tinker with each core, that defeats the purpose of my hypothesis that BL-C3 revision Athlon II X3 450's are all perfectly fine Propus -_-
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Yeah, it didn't work.
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im very surprised.

your voltage is very low. I think mine at stock was 1.34, so maybe that is part of the reason? Can your mobo handle 125w/quadcore? I have my voltage now at 1.456 (1.4CPUDVID with +.01 mobo offset) but I'm using an overclock of 260x13.5 with HT link at 1.2ghz (comes out as 1.560 due to fsb) in bios and 1.6 nb (comes out as 2.08).
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Yup, mine can do it. I've seen others do hex-cores on this board too. i don't think it's my board. I've been able to boot to a Phenom X4 B50 or whatever, but the bios resets. I restored my profile only to hang at POST again. I get the feeling that it's defective, I'm still tinkering though. If not, I get the feeling I could probably get a pretty high clock as a triple anyhow. I'm not disappointed at all
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I also get the feeling I might be able to hit 4Ghz stable
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im very surprised.

your voltage is very low. I think mine at stock was 1.34

Really? Mine was 1.425 at stock.

Maybe it's because of the board, I'm stable at 1.3 just fine. headscratch.gif
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mine is 1.325, i don't think that's too low. I just undervolted on that run by accident tongue.gif
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