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I have already ordered this processor, but I'm still wondering about what mobo to pick. I didn't find anyone with Asrock 890FX Deluxe 3 on the list, do you guys have any estimates on what I could get out of the CPU with that mobo and Mugen 2 (stock cooler + stock mugen thermal paste)?

EDIT: Case is CM 690 II Advanced
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I have already ordered this processor, but I'm still wondering about what mobo to pick. I didn't find anyone with Asrock 890FX Deluxe 3 on the list, do you guys have any estimates on what I could get out of the CPU with that mobo and Mugen 2 (stock cooler + stock mugen thermal paste)?

EDIT: Case is CM 690 II Advanced
I think biostar 890fx is one of the best for overclocking X6
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I marked your CPU/NB voltage and frequencies in bold. The voltage there for that kind of clock is way too high. You should be around 1.3v on the CPU/NB, even less possibly.

I also marked your RAM in bold. You probably need to loosen it up until you know your CPU is stable and then you can start tweaking your RAM. Also, you're shy on OC headroom with that RAM but it should be fnie.

ok so i changed the cpu/nb to 1.3 but i can not change my ram to 9x9x9x24...idk why but when i changed it to 9x9x9x24 it wont boot! like ***!!!! is my ram fried?!?!??! The only way i can change the ram setting is using amd overdrive and then i can only change everything BUT the cas latency...!?!??!?!?!


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i have the latest bios for the mobo
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my ram is G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
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running memtest as we speak
Edited by snitzle_iii - 1/22/11 at 11:58pm
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maybe your voltage is too high?
blostorm.. what are your bios settings?

My system is simular to yours. but my computer keeps crashing BSOD. If I use my on board gpu at 4ghz no problem but moment I put in gtx 570 it crashes.

Kicker is if I run everything at stock no problems.
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ok so i changed the cpu/nb to 1.3 but i can not change my ram to 9x9x9x24...idk why but when i changed it to 9x9x9x24 it wont boot! like ***!!!! is my ram fried?!?!??! The only way i can change the ram setting is using amd overdrive and then i can only change everything BUT the cas latency...!?!??!?!?!


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i have the latest bios for the mobo
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my ram is G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
found here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231277
running memtest as we speak
Hrm. Well, for starters, I would uninstall AMD Overdrive. I don't think I've seen anyone who hasn't had any issues with it including me. Generally speaking, AMD Overdrive is used by those (well not just those, but you get what I mean) who are really seeking the absolute most finite clocks they can get only after they've come to a wall via BIOS clocking.

Next, I would start over. Drop everything back to stock. Also, for the time being let your DRAM auto config itself - it will be fine. The only thing you need to manually set is the DRAM voltage (for now) - let the SPD determine the clocks based on what the BIOS defaults to.

Start from scratch and use your BIOS to overclock. Use stock voltage until you can't load Windows and/or BSOD within the first 10-15 minutes of P95. Then go back and bump the voltage. Only work on one thing at a time.

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sounds good. i only used amd overdrive to try to change the ram settings since i was not able to boot. freaked out and thought it was my ram so i ran memtest for 2hours, 8 passes and no errors. what voltage to set the dram i assume 1.5 or 1.55 (max)? ok so basically i reset my bios, set the vol of the ram to 1.5, which was default. changed the fpb in multiples of 5 to 240 (will fine tune it, if needed by tomorrow morning). was able to run prime for 10+mins, however on 245 i was unable to boot. "Then go back and bump the voltage. Only work on one thing at a time. " -u mean up the cpu voltage? what should be my next step
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sounds good. i only used amd overdrive to try to change the ram settings since i was not able to boot. freaked out and thought it was my ram so i ran memtest for 2hours, 8 passes and no errors. what voltage to set the dram i assume 1.5 or 1.55 (max)? ok so basically i reset my bios, set the vol of the ram to 1.5, which was default. changed the fpb in multiples of 5 to 240 (will fine tune it, if needed by tomorrow morning). was able to run prime for 10+mins, however on 245 i was unable to boot. "Then go back and bump the voltage. Only work on one thing at a time. " -u mean up the cpu voltage? what should be my next step
What I mean is, only work on overclocking one thing at a time.

So start with your CPU clock. Leave your CPU/NB and HT Link frequencies at or below 2000 while you up your baseclock (CPU bus).

Lets say with stock voltage you're able to overclock up to 3.15Ghz (14x225) but after that you can't boot Windows and/or POST. Then you increase your CPU vcore voltage until you can successfully boot Windows. Then you stress test (using Small FFT's in P95) for say 10-15 minutes (or more if you like, I usually go for about an hour or just under - have patience ) Then you keep following this pattern until you've got yourself where you want to be (lets say 3.8 or 4Ghz or whatever your goal is).

Then you can work on your CPU/NB frequency, doing the same thing. Start with stock voltage and move it one multiplier up. Test with Large FFT's in Prime95. Do this until you find out how good your IMC is or get to a desired frequency. The standard/general rule of thumb is 3xDRAM=CPU/NB for optimal performance. IE: 3x800(which is 1600 Mhz RAM)=2400 CPU/NB. Most people will tell you the sweet spot for 1600 is somewhere between 2400-2800.

For your HT Link, make sure it's always around 1800-2200. You won't see gains in performance beyond 2200 and it may cause instability at high frequencies. Best to leave it as close to 2000 as your multipliers will allow.

After you're all done figuring out your CPU clock and CPU/NB, now you can work on your RAM. Lower your timings with a small bump in voltage one by one. Test with Memtest initially until they don't error out. Then you can boot into Windows and run SuperPi 32M and if it finishes your RAM is probably stable at that clock/timing. If your RAM is rated for 1600, keep it at 1333 or lower when you're finding your CPU and CPU/NB clocks so it doesn't interfere with your stress testing (this will negate the possibility *hopefully* that your RAM isn't causing any instability during this testing period).

Once you're all set, run a P95 'Blend' test for minimum three hours or overnight (I prefer minimum of 6-12).

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Hrm.. Anyone have any ideas on this issue:

I'm already know my motherboard is my limiting factor in clocking my X6 but I've been trying to push it and refine voltages etc, temps are of no concern. My issue is I can't boot into Windows when I set my CPU/NB higher than 2400~.

The only way Windows will boot with a high CPU/NB is if my CPU VCORE is 1.4875+, no matter what my CPU/NB voltage is. For 2400 I need 1.325v on the CPU/NB and for 3.75Ghz~ this chip/motherboard combo seems to require 1.45v (minimum).

Any ideas people, or is it that my IMC is weak, bummer chip, just a crappy motherboard? Is it RAM related? I've tried different dividers on the RAM, including leaving it at auto, different timings, voltage, etc. What gives?!
    
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ook so i changed the fbs to 268 with 1.4v ran prime with small fft for 15mins
ran fsb @ 272 with 1.425v did not work
ran fsb @ 272 with 1.45v but had heat issues 63/64 constant in that 15min mark
ran fsb @ 270 with 1.42v worked
ran fsb @ 270 with 1.4v no go
i think i hit my max

forgot what ratio but fsb at 2430 and ran prime for 20mins with small fft all good.

tried 2700 for nb for 1.28v didn't work
tried 2700 for nb for 1.3v didn't work

did i hit my max here?

tried using sb for 2430 at default (i could not figure out how to change the south bridge voltage, its a gigabyte mobo btw) did not work
tired using sb for 2160 at default seems to work ran prime for 20mins with small fft.

my question is what is up with my ram? why won't it let me set the cl or any of the settings to defult or slower speeds. could it be that i have 4gigs and installed 32bit windows 7. i am going to do a fresh install of windows 7 with 64bit...i made my main drive 2 small


EDIT: i did not see to run prime for large fft for nb/sb doing that now.

i had nb run at 2430 @ 1.24v it crashed at 15mins
i lowerd the nb and ran at 2160 at 1.22 and prime runs for a few mins then closes. what gives?

i ran the nb at 2160 @1.24 and it crashes in 10mins.
i ran the nb at 2160 @1.26 and i got an error in 3mins

does my nb seem low to anyone ?
i ran the nb at 1860 @ default voltage and i got an error in 12mins
i ran the nb at 2160 @ 1.3 and got an error in 9mins

RANDOM QUESTION: is it better to run my computer at 3.5 with 2000nb or 3.8 with 1800nb?
also when i go to bios my computer shows "normal cpu vcore 1.475" however when i added +.05 it shows that my vcore is 1.5, however if i hold down the down arrow it will cycle from showing 1.5 to 1.4 and back to 1.5. i rebooted and bios shows "normal cpu vcore 1.375" is something broke?
Edited by snitzle_iii - 1/24/11 at 12:22am
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RANDOM QUESTION: is it better to run my computer at 3.5 with 2000nb or 3.8 with 1800nb?
It's always better to run with the higher northbridge OC, you get a better performance boost from that.

A CPU Running @ 4.0GHz with only 2000MHz CPU/NB is gonna be slower (I think) than a CPU Running @ 3.5GHz with a 3.0GHz CPU/NB OC. Forgive me if I'm incorrect, but that's the conclusion I've come to.

I don't know if it's a placebo effect also... but when I overclock the CPU/NB I get better GFLOPs in LinX than if it's at stock.

My sweet spot right now is 3.5GHz (1.3125V - VCORE), and a CPU/NB & HT Link OC of 2.5GHz. My CPU/NB is at 1.125V
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