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7/21/12 at 1:11pm

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first introduce myself I'm new around here.
This is my OC and I wanted to ask you some questions
Now i have it this way
CPU 4.1 GHz (12,5x/Bus 325) 1,48 V
NB 3.25GHz
HT 1,97 Ghz
RAM 866 Mhz (9,9,9,24, 26)
My MB is Asus saberthoot 990fx, noctua NhD14, gskills ripjaw DDR3 2100 cl9 (8 GB), and Asus GTX 670 Dcu II Top
I usually have a 4.2 Ghz, but it very hot in summer here, so, I've fallen a little.
But i wana ask you for something, whicht is better, NB at 3,4 Ghz with ram at 740, or NB 3,2 and RAM at 866? CPUz give me the same values 9,9,9,24,26
I have no idea how to adjust the ram, so any help is welcome, specially for values CAS/RAS ...
Forgive my english , its no my native language.
Thanks

You have quite good chip in there. Mine takes 1.58 V for getting to 4.2 GHz and at that voltage even my custom loop (EK block, 2 pumps, 9x120mm rad) cant keep up with heat load. I can push it to 4.1 at 1.55 and 4.0 takes 1.525 V for getting BOINC stable or it will still do errors every other day.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T	GA-870A-USB3	Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6	XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5
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Crucial M4 64 GB	SMG F1 640 GB	SMG F3 750 GB	WD Green 3 TB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Barracuda 3 TB	None	Custom Loop	Win 7 64 Pro
Monitor	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
DELL U2311H 3x	DELL U2312HM 2x	Thermaltake G-unit	Corsair TX-750
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Revoltec fifty 3, heavily modded.	Logitech G700	3M	Logitech G35
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Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Barracuda 3 TB	None	Custom Loop	Win 7 64 Pro
Monitor	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
DELL U2311H 3x	DELL U2312HM 2x	Thermaltake G-unit	Corsair TX-750
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7/21/12 at 1:42pm

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You have quite good chip in there. Mine takes 1.58 V for getting to 4.2 GHz and at that voltage even my custom loop (EK block, 2 pumps, 9x120mm rad) cant keep up with heat load. I can push it to 4.1 at 1.55 and 4.0 takes 1.525 V for getting BOINC stable or it will still do errors every other day.

Thanks for sharing that. I was concerned that my chip sucks because I'm at 1.48 to hit 3.8ghz right now.

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post #4463 of 4743

7/21/12 at 11:47pm

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I think HT and NB frequencies should be the same. At least in my BIOS there is a note that if HT frequency is lower than NB frequency then NB will be automatically downclocked to the same level. Or was it vice versa. Anyway if one is lower then the other will be dragged down to the lowest common denominator - if one is to believe the note in the BIOS of Gibabyte GA-870A-USB3 mobo.

For ram, if latency numbers are the same then higher frequency is better although I am not sure how large is the difference between 3.4 and 3.2 GHz NB.

I assume that with RAM you are not asking for the place where things can be tweaked but just saying that you are unsure of what numbers to put for the CAS, etc ... Well the real life difference is relatively neglible, its in the order of couple of percent this or that way and the main effect is just in benchmarks that concentrate particularly on memory system with Phenom II line. I think as a rough rule of thumb you should be able to knock things down a notch or up to two, depending on how good sticks you have. So 8-8-8-27, for example. There is also this option called Command Rate which is either 2T or 1T. I prefer 1T as it seems to make slightly better results in memory benchmarks but if 1T can not get stable then 2T is just fine and I think not worth giving up couple of tick in latency.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T	GA-870A-USB3	Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6	XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5
RAM	RAM	RAM	RAM
A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Crucial M4 64 GB	SMG F1 640 GB	SMG F3 750 GB	WD Green 3 TB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Barracuda 3 TB	None	Custom Loop	Win 7 64 Pro
Monitor	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
DELL U2311H 3x	DELL U2312HM 2x	Thermaltake G-unit	Corsair TX-750
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Revoltec fifty 3, heavily modded.	Logitech G700	3M	Logitech G35
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T	GA-870A-USB3	Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6	XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5
RAM	RAM	RAM	RAM
A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Crucial M4 64 GB	SMG F1 640 GB	SMG F3 750 GB	WD Green 3 TB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Barracuda 3 TB	None	Custom Loop	Win 7 64 Pro
Monitor	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
DELL U2311H 3x	DELL U2312HM 2x	Thermaltake G-unit	Corsair TX-750
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Revoltec fifty 3, heavily modded.	Logitech G700	3M	Logitech G35
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post #4464 of 4743

7/22/12 at 7:04am

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NB can be higher. We see performance increases all the time when folks do that. Look at this thread and they'll tell you that the NB gives better latency.

Keep HT to 1800-2000, NB greater than 2700 if possible.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5ghz	ASUS Sabertooth 990FX	MSI R7970-2pmd3gd5/oc	Patriot Viper Xtreme Div4 2133mhz
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
60GB Vertex2	WD Caviar 500AAKS	ASUS DVD-RW	Koolance 380a
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Power
Koolance VID-AR797	Windows 7 64 bit	Samsung 21"	Roeswill Green 630W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Home made bench	Razer Taipan	Razer	Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5ghz	ASUS Sabertooth 990FX	MSI R7970-2pmd3gd5/oc	Patriot Viper Xtreme Div4 2133mhz
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
60GB Vertex2	WD Caviar 500AAKS	ASUS DVD-RW	Koolance 380a
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Power
Koolance VID-AR797	Windows 7 64 bit	Samsung 21"	Roeswill Green 630W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Home made bench	Razer Taipan	Razer	Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
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post #4465 of 4743

7/22/12 at 8:48am

Carniflex
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It seems I actually have unrelated question.

Anyone knows if 1055T can take 32 Gb of RAM (i.e., 4x 8 Gb sticks) ?

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T	GA-870A-USB3	Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6	XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5
RAM	RAM	RAM	RAM
A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Crucial M4 64 GB	SMG F1 640 GB	SMG F3 750 GB	WD Green 3 TB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Barracuda 3 TB	None	Custom Loop	Win 7 64 Pro
Monitor	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
DELL U2311H 3x	DELL U2312HM 2x	Thermaltake G-unit	Corsair TX-750
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Revoltec fifty 3, heavily modded.	Logitech G700	3M	Logitech G35
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T	GA-870A-USB3	Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6	XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5
RAM	RAM	RAM	RAM
A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB	A-Data 8GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Crucial M4 64 GB	SMG F1 640 GB	SMG F3 750 GB	WD Green 3 TB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Barracuda 3 TB	None	Custom Loop	Win 7 64 Pro
Monitor	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
DELL U2311H 3x	DELL U2312HM 2x	Thermaltake G-unit	Corsair TX-750
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Revoltec fifty 3, heavily modded.	Logitech G700	3M	Logitech G35
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post #4466 of 4743

7/22/12 at 9:11am

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that's a motherboard limitation. the CPU will handle whatever the mobo does.

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7/22/12 at 5:52pm

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extremely late to the game/kind of gave up as i own a COOLER MASTER Hyper TX3. Bought the cheaper of the two coolers thinking that it would be good enough this was 20120 winter when the 212+expensive in my mind. got up to 3.7 and had heat issues. anyways

now they have the coolermaster 212+ for 15 20-5mir at newegg till the 5th of aug http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=HQjFitRfEeGwBMr2W9izewuCA_UUo53_0_0_0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16835103065

going to strap that badboy on, some thrermal paste and give it another go. i do have weird ram settings as i originally had

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

i was able to run prime small fft's @ 3.7 for an hour or 2 before hitting 65c (had all my fans on max+other fans blowing into the case) i did run into issues when blend mode and it would crash <1hour for sure.

i stupidly bought (since it was cheap and i wanted more ram and i had a -10dollar coupon and rebate making this badboy super cheap but actually failed on submitting the rebate on time...)
CORSAIR XMS 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233132

i know the ram speeds are different. which of the two ram should i keep?
looks like the ripjaw ram is cheaper
downclocked to a sad 3.3 turely stable machine.

mobo is 16gb max ram btw
also how do you link your machine in your sig so it shows components
Edited by snitzle_iii - 7/22/12 at 6:51pm

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7/22/12 at 7:32pm

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Doing a bad job on the thermal paste can make temps 20C hotter than a good one sometimes. Buy an extra tube and try a few different methods. The best for me is a thin layer spread with an old credit card or your finger in the corner of a baggie for my X6.

So theres always that.

You can always lap your heatsink and/or cpu. There's another 3-8C.

6 cores on air is really sensitive to vcore changes. one small .01v increase might raise temps 10C+ so every little bit helps.

with one stick of ram you lose out on the speed boost of running in dual channel and you lose some bandwidth from not running 1600. definitely keep the 2x2 kit.

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AMD FX 8320	ASRock 870 Extreme3	EVGA GTX 560 SE	Corsair XMS3 16GB 1600
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling	OS
Crucial M4 128GB SSD	Western Digital 750GB AAKS	Cooler Master Gemini S	Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling	OS
Crucial M4 128GB SSD	Western Digital 750GB AAKS	Cooler Master Gemini S	Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
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Dell E2311H3 23"	Acer X203W 20.1"	Thermaltake TR2 650W	Asus Xonar DS
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7/23/12 at 8:59am

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You have quite good chip in there. Mine takes 1.58 V for getting to 4.2 GHz and at that voltage even my custom loop (EK block, 2 pumps, 9x120mm rad) cant keep up with heat load. I can push it to 4.1 at 1.55 and 4.0 takes 1.525 V for getting BOINC stable or it will still do errors every other day.

In fact one time it was at 4,5 Ghz, just for experiment, but i can't maintained, not with air at least, the heat was rising and rising and crash after one minute or two, even on idle

With air the maximun i can maintain is 4260/4250 , maybe next winter can get higher, but not much more i think

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X6 1055T@4214Mhz/ NB 3Ghz/HT 2.1Ghz	Asus Saberthoot 990 Fx	Asus DirectCU II Top GTX 670 2GB DDR5	Gskills Ripjaw X 2133 Mhz CL9 16GB
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling	OS
WD Caviar Black 1.5 TB	WD Caviar Green 1 TB	Noctua NHC 14	Windows 7 64 Bits
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Corsair HX 1050	Thermaltake Xaser III
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7/23/12 at 9:31am

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4ghz 14x286fsb 9-9-9-27 1587mhz memory not stable
4ghz 14x286 9-9-9-27 1125mhz memory is stable
cpu stock speed 9-9-9-27 1600mhz memory is stable

Why my 4ghz memory is not stable and cpu stock speed same timing and stuff is?

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