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first introduce myself I'm new around here.
This is my OC and I wanted to ask you some questions
Now i have it this way
CPU 4.1 GHz (12,5x/Bus 325) 1,48 V
NB 3.25GHz
HT 1,97 Ghz
RAM 866 Mhz (9,9,9,24, 26)
My MB is Asus saberthoot 990fx, noctua NhD14, gskills ripjaw DDR3 2100 cl9 (8 GB), and Asus GTX 670 Dcu II Top
I usually have a 4.2 Ghz, but it very hot in summer here, so, I've fallen a little.
But i wana ask you for something, whicht is better, NB at 3,4 Ghz with ram at 740, or NB 3,2 and RAM at 866? CPUz give me the same values 9,9,9,24,26
I have no idea how to adjust the ram, so any help is welcome, specially for values CAS/RAS ...
Forgive my english , its no my native language.
Thanks

You have quite good chip in there. Mine takes 1.58 V for getting to 4.2 GHz and at that voltage even my custom loop (EK block, 2 pumps, 9x120mm rad) cant keep up with heat load. I can push it to 4.1 at 1.55 and 4.0 takes 1.525 V for getting BOINC stable or it will still do errors every other day.
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You have quite good chip in there. Mine takes 1.58 V for getting to 4.2 GHz and at that voltage even my custom loop (EK block, 2 pumps, 9x120mm rad) cant keep up with heat load. I can push it to 4.1 at 1.55 and 4.0 takes 1.525 V for getting BOINC stable or it will still do errors every other day.

Thanks for sharing that. I was concerned that my chip sucks because I'm at 1.48 to hit 3.8ghz right now.
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I think HT and NB frequencies should be the same. At least in my BIOS there is a note that if HT frequency is lower than NB frequency then NB will be automatically downclocked to the same level. Or was it vice versa. Anyway if one is lower then the other will be dragged down to the lowest common denominator - if one is to believe the note in the BIOS of Gibabyte GA-870A-USB3 mobo.

For ram, if latency numbers are the same then higher frequency is better although I am not sure how large is the difference between 3.4 and 3.2 GHz NB.

I assume that with RAM you are not asking for the place where things can be tweaked but just saying that you are unsure of what numbers to put for the CAS, etc ... Well the real life difference is relatively neglible, its in the order of couple of percent this or that way and the main effect is just in benchmarks that concentrate particularly on memory system with Phenom II line. I think as a rough rule of thumb you should be able to knock things down a notch or up to two, depending on how good sticks you have. So 8-8-8-27, for example. There is also this option called Command Rate which is either 2T or 1T. I prefer 1T as it seems to make slightly better results in memory benchmarks but if 1T can not get stable then 2T is just fine and I think not worth giving up couple of tick in latency.
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NB can be higher. We see performance increases all the time when folks do that. Look at this thread and they'll tell you that the NB gives better latency.

Keep HT to 1800-2000, NB greater than 2700 if possible.
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It seems I actually have unrelated question.

Anyone knows if 1055T can take 32 Gb of RAM (i.e., 4x 8 Gb sticks) ?
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that's a motherboard limitation. the CPU will handle whatever the mobo does.
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extremely late to the game/kind of gave up as i own a COOLER MASTER Hyper TX3. Bought the cheaper of the two coolers thinking that it would be good enough this was 20120 winter when the 212+expensive in my mind. got up to 3.7 and had heat issues. anyways

now they have the coolermaster 212+ for 15 20-5mir at newegg till the 5th of aug http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=HQjFitRfEeGwBMr2W9izewuCA_UUo53_0_0_0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16835103065

going to strap that badboy on, some thrermal paste and give it another go. i do have weird ram settings as i originally had

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

i was able to run prime small fft's @ 3.7 for an hour or 2 before hitting 65c (had all my fans on max+other fans blowing into the case) i did run into issues when blend mode and it would crash <1hour for sure.

i stupidly bought (since it was cheap and i wanted more ram and i had a -10dollar coupon and rebate making this badboy super cheap but actually failed on submitting the rebate on time...)
CORSAIR XMS 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233132

i know the ram speeds are different. which of the two ram should i keep?
looks like the ripjaw ram is cheaper
downclocked to a sad 3.3 turely stable machine.

mobo is 16gb max ram btw
also how do you link your machine in your sig so it shows components
Edited by snitzle_iii - 7/22/12 at 6:51pm
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Doing a bad job on the thermal paste can make temps 20C hotter than a good one sometimes. Buy an extra tube and try a few different methods. The best for me is a thin layer spread with an old credit card or your finger in the corner of a baggie for my X6.

So theres always that.

You can always lap your heatsink and/or cpu. There's another 3-8C.

6 cores on air is really sensitive to vcore changes. one small .01v increase might raise temps 10C+ so every little bit helps.

with one stick of ram you lose out on the speed boost of running in dual channel and you lose some bandwidth from not running 1600. definitely keep the 2x2 kit.
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You have quite good chip in there. Mine takes 1.58 V for getting to 4.2 GHz and at that voltage even my custom loop (EK block, 2 pumps, 9x120mm rad) cant keep up with heat load. I can push it to 4.1 at 1.55 and 4.0 takes 1.525 V for getting BOINC stable or it will still do errors every other day.

In fact one time it was at 4,5 Ghz, just for experiment, but i can't maintained, not with air at least, the heat was rising and rising and crash after one minute or two, even on idle mad.gif

With air the maximun i can maintain is 4260/4250 , maybe next winter can get higher, but not much more i think
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4ghz 14x286fsb 9-9-9-27 1587mhz memory not stable
4ghz 14x286 9-9-9-27 1125mhz memory is stable
cpu stock speed 9-9-9-27 1600mhz memory is stable

Why my 4ghz memory is not stable and cpu stock speed same timing and stuff is?
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