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I don't know much about server building, but this has been something dancing in the back of my head for a while. I still want to build a media center (and money is slowly being funnelled towards that endeavor), but I like to plan and research in advanced plus there may be others who have questions so why not strike up some dialogue.

Anyways, it seems like Linux is the way to go when it comes to servers, due to the stability and security, so I am going to pick up some books on Linux and get to work on learning that. As far as hardware goes I was hoping to get some suggestions as to what are the bare minimum requirements. I pulled some components off of newegg and was hoping to get some feedback in terms of what works, what doesn't, and if anyone had some basic reading in terms of setting up a server.

~TYAN S2875ANRF Dual Socket 940 AMD 8151 ATX Server Motherboard -$229
~AMD Opteron 246 SledgeHammer 800MHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 940 Processor (x2) - $228 each ($456 total)
~Western Digital Raptor 74GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - $155
~Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (x2) - $100 each ($200 total)
~mushkin Green 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - $160
~OCZ ModStream OCZ52012U ATX, BTX, SATA, P4 and EPS12V 520W Power Supply - $110
~eVGA 256-P2-N363-TX Geforce 6600LE 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - $80

Total - $1390

I haven't looked at a case since I am not sure what is going to go inside. Again, I don't know much about servers, so if I am completely off on something please point it out. I saw this and thought that that might be something really cool try out instead, but I will weight the options once I get some input. Reps will obviously be awarded for helpful posts, and links to tutorials and such are always welcomed. Thanks in advance.
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There are some good reads in the Linux section on the OS
On the Main HD... a pair of smaller drives in RAID0 perform very well and would save you some money.
If you want a dual core CPU... you will save a bit of cash with an Opty 165 Retail for $329 and get 2x1024 cache and a 1000MHz HTT (FSB) system.
A more common DFI MB will save you about another $50 ish.
Overall you will have a powerful system and save about $250-300
OH, and you can OC the 165 a conservitave amount with the srock FHS for even more bang for the buck
    
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And the setup you have listed won't work...you have a TYAN MB with an AGP slot and a video card that is PCIE...the 2 don't interchange...
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And the setup you have listed won't work...you have a TYAN MB with an AGP slot and a video card that is PCIE...the 2 don't interchange...
Yea, correct.
I would get the MSI K8N-Master2-FAR, their server series boards are really good, I had one myself. They have SLi and a bunch of extra goodies for about 250.
    
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Woops, read through the specs to quickly...

AGP Slots 1x AGP 4X/8X
PCI Slots 5

Thought it said PCI-E ... D'oh

This the board you are talking about?
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Im thinking of building a server for 1 of three things not sure which yet:
1)small source gaming server
2)java chat
3)web server
oh crap i forgot to add
4) a ventrilo chat server

anyone tell me what kind of connection i would need for these, and anything else i should take into account
it'll either be on fedora linux or windows xp not sure yet
    
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I assumed when it came to building a server; it was 'Just enough' rather than overkill. And honostly; if you look at your main rig; it would be stupid to purchase a server that powerful and then use it as just a server.
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i know im gonna just put em
p4 3.0-3.2
512-1gb ram
60gb HD(i have spare)
crappy black case
    
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For what you are doing you don't actually need a "server" class MB/CPUs
    
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I was wondering about that too. What does a person really need two processors for? I figured if I was going to build a server for gaming/vent/storage, that 2 proc would be a bit overkill... unless I decided to use it for games but in that case I would need to have it dual boot windows and linux, but still I dont see why I would need two processors... I just figured it was like a bare minimum thing for servers.

Also, I read some of the stickies in the Linux section, but I was hoping to find a distro that had more... how do you say it... graphic interface to it... I figured transitioning from windows to linux would be challenging so I should do it in baby steps. Ubuntu seems like it might be good. Any other suggestions? I could move this to the OS thread, but I figured why start two threads when they are kind of related.
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