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Delta

Five-Dollar Delta – WFB1212H

For $4.95US, I got two – just in case they were really good fans.


Image: Delta WFB1212H, in and out

Links: http://www.mpja.com/prodinfo.asp?number=17345+FN
http://1stpccorp.com/fan_delta_120mm.htm
http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Product...DS/1537133.pdf

Five-Dollar Delta Specs

Size: 120x25mm, 7 blades
Bearing: ball
Speed: 2470 RPM
Air Flow: 86.50 CFM
SPL: 37.6 dBA
Static Pressure: 4.80 mm H2O
Features: two wires – no RPM-reporting lead

Results on the Megahalems, individually (average):

Speed: 2335 RPM (estimated rpm by synchronizing another fan with them)
CPU temp over ambient: 54c
SPL: 35.5 dBA

Two fans in tandem:

Speed: 2330 RPM (avg)
CPU temp over ambient: 51c
SPL: 41 dBA

A pair of these is comparable to a single San Ace. -H101 or -H1011. Only two wires, but no problem with voltage control. The MB didn’t seem to care. On auto, they range up and down just fine. You can get a pair of highspeed Yate Loons even cheaper, and those make less noise. But this is probably the lowest price for high performance ball bearing fans.
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Enermax

Cluster


Image: Enermax Cluster with Everest blade - exhaust view


Image: Enermax Cluster with Everest blade - intake view

I got a trashed Cluster and a functional Everest in the grab bag – 36 fans for $30. It occurred to me that the fan blades – removable – might be interchangeable. They are indeed. And it turns out that the Cluster’s blade hub had been crushed. So I put the Everest blade on the Cluster body, and Presto! – instant PWM fan. Since I didn’t need a thermal fan and I wanted a straight-sided shroud, the Everest was gutted. It’s a cool shroud. The Cluster blade, BTW, is white.

Link: http://www.enermaxusa.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=141

Enermax Cluster Specs:

Size: 120x25mm, 9 blades
Bearing: Twister bearing
Speed: 500 to 1200 RPM
Airflow: 23.86 to 53.02 CFM
SPL: 8 - 14 dBA
Static Pressure: 0.483 to 1.073 mm H2O
Features: PWM control, LED on/off switch

Results on the Megahalems:

Speed: 1320 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: fail
SPL: 25.5 dBA

It was soft, with just a little fan noise. But it was pretty weak for a 1320 RPM fan. With an ambient temp of 18c, the CPU cracked 80c at 5.2 minutes. It is quieter when used as a case fan. They need to make a “Cluster Flux” which goes up to 2100 RPM.

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Magma


Image: Enermax Magma, exhaust view


Image: Enermax Magma, intake view

Link: http://www.enermaxusa.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=140

Enermax Magma Specs:

Size: 120x26.5mm, 9 blades
Bearing: Twister bearing
Speed: 1500 RPM
Airflow: 69.15 CFM
SPL: 18 dBA
Static Pressure: 1.400 mm H2O
Features:

Results on the Megahalems (average):

Speed: 1700 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 56c
SPL: 31.5 dBA

Such a soft sound. Could listen forever. The SPL meter picked up the white noise, but it didn’t come through as sound to my merely human ear. A lovely fan.

-------------------------

Magma > Cluster

I don’t have a second Magma to try a tandem mount, but I do have my hybrid Cluster. What can they do together?

Results on the Megahalems:

CPU temp over ambient: 54c
SPL: 29 dBA, taken from the side (standard SPL reading not done)

This suggests that tandem Magmas might have gotten down to 53c over ambient. That would be very nice for fans so easy to listen to.
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Evercool

140mm Red Scorpion fan. RSF-14


Image: Evercool 140mm Red Scorpion fan, exhaust view


Image: Evercool 140mm Red Scorpion fan, intake view

Link: http://www.evercool.com/

Evercool 140mm Red Scorpion Specs:

Size: 140x40mm, 11 blades. Without adapter, 140x25mm
Bearing: Ever Lubricate bearing
Speed: 1200 RPM
Airflow: na
SPL: < 22 dBA
Static Pressure: na
Features: comes with a 12 cm to 14 cm fan adapter

Results on the Megahalems (average):

Speed: 1200 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 55.5c
SPL: 28 dBA

Hardly hear it in operation. Of course it doesn’t really fit – the heatsink tensioning screw keeps the fan frame too far away from the MB – but it does give you the sense that these 140mm fans can really move air, and reasonably quietly.
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Gelid Solutions

Silent 12

I read many glowing reviews about this fan, so I got one.


Image: Gelid Silent 12 exhaust view


Image: Gelid Silent 12 intake view

Link: http://www.gelidsolutions.com/produc...=2&cid=5&id=23

Gelid Solutions Silent 12 Specs:

Size: 120x25mm, 7 blades
Bearing: hydro dynamic
Speed: 1000 RPM
Airflow: 37 CFM
SPL: 20.2 dBA
Static Pressure: 1.07 mm H2O
Features: comes with four soft fan mounts

Results on the Megahalems:

Speed: 940 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: fail
SPL: 17.5 dBA
“Oh, so soft.”

A lovely case fan. In fact, Gelid Solutions calls it their “Silent Series 120mm Case Fan.” That’s about right. Further, I believe their CFM spec. It seems right. Certainly their SPL and RPM specs are right. They make a PWM fan that ranges from 500 to 1500 RPM, with SPL of 12 to 25.5 dBA. That would be a fine non-OC HSF.

One more note: given the shape of the blades and the fact that it has a hydro dynamic bearing, is this essentially a Thermalright TR-FDB/Scythe S-Flex fan that operates down at 1000 RPM?
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Japan Servo

Japan Servo, Servo, and Nidec Servo are brand names associated with the Nidec Corporation, or Nihon Densan Kabushikigaisha.

Nidec SCNDM12B4

I found this fan at a sort of surplus outfit.

Link: http://www.mpja.com/prodinfo.asp?number=18015+FN

They call it a “Square/Round fan,” and I suppose it is: the exhaust side is a standard 120mm frame, while the intake side is a five-inch ring.


Image: Nidec SCNDM12B4, exhaust view


Image: Nidec SCNDM12B4, ring view

For six bucks, it was an easy fan to order. When I got my first copy, I loved it. I had to get another.


Image: Japan Servo SCNDM12B4, intake & exhaust views


Image: Japan Servo SCNDM12B4, facing up and down


Image: Japan Servo SCNDM12B4 on Megahalems - ready


Image: Japan Servo SCNDM12B4 on Megahalems – running


Image: Nidec SCNDM12B4 mounted on Megahalems

Note that Megahalems 38mm clips mount this just fine, because the clips grab onto the outside of the fan, not the inside. OTOH, mounting a second fan on the exhaust side is a bit of a stretch because the ring is too big to fit into recesses designed to accept 120mm frames; so it is held to the outside of the fin stack. But the clips just do get into their indentations and hold the exhaust fan on the cooler.

Nidec SCNDM12B4 Specs (a.k.a. – Six Dollar Servos)
(also, see pdf here: http://www.japanservo.co.jp/digital/.../pdf/SCNDM.pdf)

Size: 120x38mm, 7 blades
Bearing: ball
Speed: 2650 RPM
Airflow: 106 CFM
SPL: 40 dBA
Static Pressure: 6.6 mm H2O
Features: Intake side has 5-inch ring; two wires, so no RPM reporter lead.

Results on the Megahalems (average):

Speed: 2470 RPM (estimated rpm by synchronizing another fan with it)
CPU temp over ambient: 51.5c
SPL: 39.5 dBA

In other words, it is a dead match for the San Ace -H101

Results on the Megahalems (#2 fan) at 5v:

Speed: 1095 RPM (estimated rpm by synchronizing another fan with it)
CPU temp over ambient: 58.5c
SPL: 19.5 dBA

This lets you know what the fan is like when it is not working hard. Unfortunately, it clicks. It clicks softly, so you might not hear it. After all it is under 20 dBA and it is inside the case.

Results on the Megahalems 12v, tandem mount (2 fans):

Speed: 2410 RPM (average) (estimated rpm by synchronizing another fan with each fan)
CPU temp over ambient: 49c
SPL: 41.5 dBA
“Smooth for the work.”

Really excellent results.

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Japan Servo Centaur - CNDC12Z7RP

Another “surplus” fan, this time only five bucks (link: http://www.mpja.com/prodinfo.asp?number=18222+FN)


Image: Japan Servo CNDC12Z7RP, intake & exhaust views

Link: http://www.japanservo.co.jp/digital/...l/pdf/CNDC.pdf

Japan Servo CNDC12Z7RP Specs:

Size: 120x38mm, 7 blades
Bearing: ball
Speed: 3200 RPM
Airflow: 124 CFM
SPL: 49 dBA
Static Pressure: 10.7 mm H2O
Features: Vendor copy says 3d wire is stall sensor. Wrong: 3d wire is RPM reporter.

Results on the Megahalems:

Speed: 3050 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 50c
SPL: 46 dBA

No advantage over the San Ace -H101, and a lot more noise. Yet a good cheap fan for radiators.


Results on the Megahalems at 5v:

Speed: 1590 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 52.5c
SPL: 29.5 dBA

At 5 volts, this is a pretty decent fan for $4.95US. It’s nearly as good as a number of expensive fans, better than most and is pretty quiet. But you must keep it on a leash.


Tandem fans - Results on the Megahalems at 12v:

Speed: 3110 RPM (average)
CPU temp over ambient: 48.5c
SPL: 50 dBA
“They sing!”


Tandem fans - Results on the Megahalems at 5v:

Speed: 1590 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 52c
SPL: 33 dBA

Essentially the same temps as a solo fan at 5v, but more noise.
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Masscool


FD14025

A 140mm fan that came with a slot controller that works pretty well.


Image: Masscool FD014025, exhaust view


Image: Masscool FD014025, intake view

Link: http://www.masscool.com/product_deta...pid=161&id=140

Masscool FD014025 Specs

Size: 140x25mm, 7 blades
Bearing: ball
Speed: 800 to 1300 RPM
Airflow: 27.2 to 47.8 CFM
SPL: 18 to 22 dBA
Static Pressure: na
Features: speed control bracket, with fan guard (wire grill), nice tight sleeving

Results on the Megahalems:

Speed: 1350 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 56c
SPL: 30 dBA
“From a meter away, a mild whine you don't hear close up.”

Comparing frames and blades, the Masscool FD14025 looks like a Yate Loon D14BM-12.


Image: Masscool FD014025 vs Yate Loon D14SM-12 exhaust views


Image: Masscool FD014025 vs Yate Loon D14SM-12 intake views

Link: http://www.yateloon.com/style/conten...=8511&id=38839

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Masscool FD12025B1L3/4

Another cheap ($4.95) ball-bearing fan.


Image: Masscool FD12025 fan, exhaust view


Image: Masscool FD12025 fan, intake view

Link: http://www.masscool.com/product_deta...?pid=127&id=61

Masscool FD12025B1L3/4 Specs

Size: 120x25mm, 7 blades
Bearing: ball
Speed: 1500 RPM
Airflow: 52.05 CFM (ah, such precision . . .)
SPL: 25 dBA
Static Pressure: na
Features: nice tight sleeving and black plug

Results on the Megahalems:

Speed: 1600 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 55.5c
SPL: 27 dBA

Not bad for five bucks. Wonder what two would have done?
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Mechatronics

More treasure from the grab bag: Mechatronics MXA1225L12D FSR


Image: Mechatronics MXA1225L12D, exhaust view


Image: Mechatronics MXA1225L12D, intake view

Mechatronics MXA1225L12D Specs:

Sleeve bearing.
2 wires – no RPM reporter lead
If you find any other specs, please let me know.

Results on the Megahalems:

Speed: 1375 RPM (estimated rpm by synchronizing another fan with it)
CPU temp over ambient: 56c
SPL: 24.5 dBA

Just fine for less than a dollar. OK, so I had to put my own plug on it. Well, I know how to do that now.

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Mechatronics MD1238H12B

Yet another gem from the grab bag.

What a beast! A 25mm 9-bladed fan pushing through 13 wind-straightening vanes. It came with a little Dell-type plug. Replaced it with Molex. You’ll see why.


Image: Mechatronics MD1238H12B, exhaust view


Image: Mechatronics MD1238H12B, intake view

Link: http://www.mechatronics.com/Individu...238_7.6.05.pdf

Mechatronics MD1238H12B Specs

Size: 120x38mm, 9 blades, 13 vanes
Bearing: ball
Speed: 3800 RPM
Airflow: 174 CFM
SPL: 57.8 dBA
Static Pressure: 16.7 mm H2O
Current: 1.60 Amps. Too much current for a motherboard header; they max out at 1 Amp.
Features: 2 wires, so no RPM reporter lead

Results on the Megahalems, 12v (average):

Speed: 3800 RPM? I have no 9-bladed fan that goes fast enough to synchronize with it.
CPU temp over ambient: 47c
SPL: 58.5 dBA

Results on the Megahalems, 5v:

Speed: 1880 RPM (estimated RPM by synchronizing another fan with it)
CPU temp over ambient: 51c
SPL: 39 dBA

It’s a brute. Fun to play with, but not something I’d put next to my ear.
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Nexus

Real Silent, Basic Series, D12SL-12


Image: Nexus D12SL-12, exhaust view


Image: Nexus D12SL-12, intake view

With its fan number, this fan seems to some to be a re-badged Yate Loon fan. And if you look at the frame of the Yate Loon, it does look like the same fan. Those dimples that flank the screw holes seem characteristic of YL’s, for example:


Image: Yate Loon D12SL-12 fan, intake view

But the Yate Loon low speed fans I have – even from Petra’s Tech Shop – all click when undervolted. The Nexus does not.

In any case, this is the fan favored by Silent PC Review. They really, really like this fan.

Link: http://www.nexustechnologyusa.com/c/...box_of_20.html

Specs:

Size: 120x25mm, 7 blades
Bearing: na
Speed: 1000 RPM
Airflow: 36.87 CFM
SPL: 22.8 dBA
Static Pressure: na
Feature: a set of the excellent Nexus silicone fan mounts/vibration isolators – in purple. I love them.

BTW – The Nexus silicon fan mounts are what I use for all of my fans. IMO, the best.

Results on the Megahalems (average):

Speed: 1095 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 59c
SPL: 20 dBA
“Very hard to hear; even close up it is soft, pleasant.”
I can see why the people at SPCR love this fan.
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NMB-MAT

NMB-MAT, seems to be a merger of the Minebea Company (NMB) and Matsu****a - or at least the fan operations of these companies. They seem to have taken over the fan business of Panasonic - Panaflo - as well.

Panaflo FBA12G12M-1BX

Many people swear by these fans, so I got one.


Image: Panaflo FBA12G12M-1BX exhaust view


Image: Panaflo FBA12G12M-1BX intake view

Panaflo fans are not reachable through the NMB-MAT website, but you can buy them.

Panaflo FBA12G12M-1BX Specs:

Size: 120x38mm, 7 blades
Bearing: Hydro Wave Bearing
Speed: 2100 RPM
Airflow: 86.5 CFM
SPL: 35.5 dBA
Static Pressure: 4.6 mm H2O

Results on the Megahalems, 12v:

Speed: 2080 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 51.5c
SPL: 37 dBA

Results on the Megahalems, 5v:

Speed: 820 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: fail
SPL: 17 dBA

Despite the very low noise, a fast clicking was present at 5 volts.


NMB-MAT fans

Now we come to non-Panaflo Minebea-Matsu****a fans. You can find these on the NMB-MAT website. I was able to do supplemental testing of these fans in one evening because my San Ace 9G1212H101 standard test fan gave me exactly 50c over ambient. The following fans were all tested right after that.


NMB-MAT 4710KL-O4W-B40, exhaust view


NMB-MAT 4710KL-04W-B40, intake view

NMB-MAT 4710KL-04W-B40 specs:

Size: 119x25mm, 9 blades
Bearing: ball
Speed: 2500 RPM
Airflow: 100.6 CFM
SPL: 38.5 dBA
Static Pressure: 4mm H2O
Features: two bare wires. Had to put on the plugs and sleeve them myself.

Results on the Megahalems, 12v, single fan:

Speed: 2419 RPM (estimated rpm by synchronizing another fan with it)
CPU temp over ambient: 51.5c
SPL: 40.5 dBA
Comment: Compared to the San Ace 9G1212H101, "More wind, less whine." They do click when undervolted.

Results on the Megahalems 12v, tandem mount (2 fans):

Speed: not estimated
CPU temp over ambient: 50c
SPL: 44 dBA
They sounded noisy.


NMB-MAT 4710KL-04W-B56, exhaust view


NMB-MAT 4710KL-04W-B56, intake view

These are PWM fans. I have two, but they behave very differently.

NMB-MAT 4710KL-04W-B50 specs (we assume the B56 specs are the same):

Size: 119x25mm, 9 blades
Bearing: ball
Speed: 2800 RPM
Airflow: 114.7 CFM
SPL: 41.5 dBA
Static Pressure: 5mm H2O
Features: twisted wires, PWM plug

Results on the Megahalems, 12v, #1 fan:

Speed: 1985 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 54c
SPL: 34 dBA
Comment: "Does not start without assistance," when getting anything less than 10 volts. They do click when undervolted, even on PWM!

Results on the Megahalems, 12v, #2 fan:

Speed: 2678 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 52.5c
SPL: 43.5 dBA
Comment: They do click when undervolted, even on PWM!

I have other fans better than these, but all four 4710KL's would do OK as fixed rpm fans.
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Noctua


NF-S12B FLX

This fan is intended as a case fan.


Image: Noctua NF-S12B FLX, exhaust view


Image: Noctua NF-S12B FLX, intake view

There are still some NF-S12’s for sale around the web. Apparently the S12B is a significant improvement over the older fan.

Link: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=p...s_id=25&lng=en

Specs:

Size: 120x25mm, 7 blades
Bearing: self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing (SSO bearing)
Speed: 1200 RPM
Airflow: 59.2 CFM
SPL: 18.1 dBA
Static Pressure: 1.31 mm H2O
Features: comes with resistor wires - LNA (low noise adapter) and ULNA (ultra low noise adapter); excellent tight sleeving

Results on the Megahalems (average):

Speed: 1275 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 58.5c
SPL: 24 dBA
“Quiet hum and wind rushing; very pleasant”

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NF-P12

This fan is intended as a HSF.


Image: Noctua NF-P12, intake & exhaust views

Link: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=p...s_id=12&lng=en

Specs:

Size: 120x25mm, 9 blades
Bearing: self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing (SSO bearing)
Speed: 1300 RPM
Airflow: 54.3 CFM
SPL: 19.8 dBA
Static Pressure: 1.68 mm H2O
Features: comes with resistor wires - LNA (low noise adapter) and ULNA (ultra low noise adapter); excellent tight sleeving

Results on the Megahalems (average):

Speed: 1350 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 57.5c
SPL: 25.5 dBA
“Quiet rushing sound; almost no hum; pleasant”


Results on the Megahalems (twin P12’s tandem):

Speed: 1340 RPM (average)
CPU temp over ambient: 57.5c
SPL: 27 dBA

“Quiet rushing sound; almost no hum; pleasant.” But no gain in temps for a slight increase in noise.

Results on the Megahalems with P12 intake, S12B exhaust:

Speed: 1280 RPM (average)
CPU temp over ambient: 59c
SPL: 28.5 dBA
“Quiet rushing sound; quiet song.”

But even higher temps with even more noise, even if it is pleasant noise.

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NF-P14

Was this fan designed for the cooler? Or the cooler for the fan? The P14 is intended to be at the center of Noctua’s monumental heatsink, the NH-D14. The fan has screw holes placed in the standard positions for 120mm fans.


Image: Noctua NF-P14, intake & exhaust views

Link: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=p...s_id=33&lng=en

In order to test this fan I mounted it on the Megahalems. The heatsink’s tensioning screws keep a 140mm fan pushed up away from the MB, so the side panel will not fit. Yet testing 140mm fans on the Megahalems is a way to compare its effects to that of other fans. So, I test.


Image: Megahalems with 2 Noctua NF-P14 140mm fans


Megahalems with 2 Noctua NF-P14 140mm fans: what will fit in a case?


Noctua NF-P14 Specs:

Size: 140x25mm, 9 blades
Bearing: self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing (SSO bearing)
Speed: 1200 RPM
Airflow: 64.9 CFM
SPL: 19.6 dBA
Static Pressure: 1.29 mm H2O
Features: comes with resistor wires - LNA (low noise adapter) and ULNA (ultra low noise adapter), four extensions to allow the fan to be mounted to 140mm screw holes; excellent tight sleeving

Results on the Megahalems (average):

Speed: 1240 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 57c
SPL: 29 dBA
“Quiet rushing sound; almost no hum; pleasant.”

Results on the Megahalems (two P14’s in tandem):

Speed: 1220 RPM
CPU temp over ambient: 54.5c
SPL: 30.5 dBA
“Quiet rushing sound; almost no hum; pleasant.” But “One of the fans is making the Megahalems shake.” Maybe it was the two of them interacting.
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