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Hi All,

I am new to the forum, and although a computer enthusiast I am also fairly new to overclocking. I have spent the last few days reading many guides, tutorials or even copying exactly someone else's setup and have not had any success in overclocking my system.

My problems are that the system will not overclock, and also will not use any manually provided memory clocks speeds. it just defaults to 800mhz and the only thing that will get it to 1066 or 1067 mhz is the SLI-Ready Memory option. I can't even set it to 533mhz to be synced with the standard FSB of my Q6600.

My System is:
Asus Striker 2 Formula - BIOS 2402 (latest, flashed today 3rd may 2010)
Q6600 G0
Arctic Cooler Freezer Pro 7
Corsair Dominator (CM2x1024-8500C5D) ver2.3, 5-5-5-15, 2.15v
Nvidia 8800 GTS 512MB

Everything else has been removed, HDD, CDROM, even taken 1 stick of RAM out.

The bios settings are very basic almost everything disabled. (CE1, virtualisation, speed step, hpet, usb legacy, ethernet ports, IDE channels, loadline calibration, nvidia gpu ex, SLI-ready memory, spread spectrum) All DISABLED.


This is how i have set up the important parts of my BIOS:
Extreme Tweaker
--> FSB & Memory Config
-->--> CPU Level Up - Auto
-->--> FSB - Memory Clock Mode - [unlinked]
-->--> FSB (QDR), Mhz - [1066]
-->--> MEM (QDR), Mhz - [1066]
-->Overclocking
-->--> Memory Timing Setting
-->-->--> tCL - 5
-->-->--> tRCD - 5
-->-->--> tRP - 5
-->-->--> tRAS - 15
-->-->--> Command Per Clock - 2t
-->--> Spread Spectrum Control (all disabled)
-->--> CPU Internal Thermal Control - Auto
-->--> Limit CPUID MaxVal - Disabled
-->--> Enhanced C1 - Disabled
-->--> Execute Disable Bit - Disabled
-->--> Virtualisation Technology - Disabled
-->--> CPU Multiplier - 9
-->--> Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Tech - Disabled
-->--> LDT Frequency - 5x
-->--> All Cores enabled.
--> Over Voltage
-->--> Memory Voltage - [2.16V]
-->--> Everything Else - AUTO
--> Loadline Calibration - Disabled
--> Nvidia GPU Ex - Disabled
--> SLI-Ready Memory - Disabled


my post with these exact settings give me the following output:
---------
Main Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU 2.40GHz, 4 CPUS
Memory Testing: 1047552K OK....
CPU Brand Name: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40Ghz

SLI-Ready Memory Detected - Disable
Memory Clock is : 800 MHz
DDR2 Single Channel Mode
---------

If i try to increase the FSB with or without increasing the Vcore or VTT or both the system will display the following post:
-------
Main Processor: Intel core 2 quad cpu 3.0ghz, 4 cpus
Memory Testing: ....<as before>
CPU Brand Name: intel core 2 quad cpu q6600 @ 2.40ghz

SLI-Ready Memory Detected - disable
Memory clock is : 800mhz
DDR2 Single channel Mode
...
..
.
**** Warning: System BOOT Fail ****
Your last system boot fail or post interrupted
Please enter setup to load default and reboot again.



My questions are:

1) why 800mhz? why won't it change?

and

2) why can i not overclock?


Would be grateful as im really out on ideas at the mo. i really have tried many many variables, and nothing has changed.

sorry for such a long post.

Andy
post #2 of 32
Prob need MOAR VOLTS! I think you should be able to set the cpu-ram ratio to it doesnt run at 800mhz.
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Hi, Thanks for your reply.

you say it needs more volts.

The ram is set to almost the exact voltage specified by the manufacture. The manufacture says 2.15v, my bios gives me the options of 2.14 or 2.16. I have set it at 2.16V - why would it need more volts as i am not overclocking the RAM?

the voltage of the CPU seems to make no difference. I have tried many different values, even towards the top end 1.45V (never tried more than that). an it wont OC even by 1 mhz. I have read that the best advice is to use the Auto values which tend to over estimate anyway, then work back from those values to reduce excess heat. But these Auto values do not work either.

Does anyone have the same, or very similar setup that could share their experiences with me?

My last attempt using the Asus AI software in windows does OC fine, just it doesnt OC enough - I really need 3.0ghz. So i know i can be done, but it just seems the BIOS is confused maybe, or not updating properly.

Anythoughts?

Andy
post #4 of 32
Are you manually setting your ram speed or is it on auto?
 
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ok turn off the internal thermal control mate, make sure your ram stays in "unlinked mode" and put the ram back to 800mhz, sit the cpu on 1.45 vcore (or if you have a decent cooler then try 1.5vcore) and clock your fsb up from there.

post back your results, make sure the cpu does not exceed 99c under 100% load or you will need to back your overclock down.

if you manage to overclock it then download and run "intel burn test" for 10 loops (if it passes re-do it with 20-25 loops, if it doesnt pass we will work from there)

i would recommend trying to overclock the cpu to 3.0, 3.2, 3.4, 3.6 no higher.

hope this helps mate.

EDIT: i might also add that virtualisation is not going to hold your overclock back and is generally a good thing.
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I usually tackle these things from the absolute most basic troubleshooting perspective, so I was wondering A). Is the setup stable as is when not overclocking? B). What power supply are you running? C). Perhaps by shutting down one of the bios options, you have inhibited proper voltage settings being applied? I had a Q6600 with an Asus P5QC and it wouldn't clock for a damn either, that said, I'm not exactly sure what the issue could be. Are you the first owner of the motherboard/ processor?
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Originally Posted by entropic View Post
I usually tackle these things from the absolute most basic troubleshooting perspective, so I was wondering A). Is the setup stable as is when not overclocking? B). What power supply are you running? C). Perhaps by shutting down one of the bios options, you have inhibited proper voltage settings being applied? I had a Q6600 with an Asus P5QC and it wouldn't clock for a damn either, that said, I'm not exactly sure what the issue could be. Are you the first owner of the motherboard/ processor?
ok not trying to bash you here mate,

first off the Q6600 does not clock very well with the P5Q/P5K series if at all, not the cpu @ fault but more-so the motherboards abillity to raise the fsb on quads.

second @ stock the setup would be stable unless there was either:

A)physical damage to components, no matter how large or small

B) serious over-volt abuse (doubtful... very very doubtful)

C) temperature problems or shorting

D) ram problems

since the OP has reported none of the above problems we can safely assume that this is not the cause, secondly all cpus can overclock but not all motherboards can overclock a cpu, which can be ruled out in this situation because the Striker II has a 780i/790i chipset and they overclock 65nm quads decently.

on a side note i see you are new here, welcome, and i would recommend you layout your posts a little better for easier viewing on the eyes (hitting enter a couple of times is not hard )
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That mother board sucks for OC. I know because I got the same one. Will try to post you my bios save when I get home.
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That mother board sucks for OC. I know because I got the same one. Will try to post you my bios save when I get home.
not completely true, i said it was decent, not great, by no means amazing, just decent, meaning you get more than a 200mhz increase. Infact judging from what you were able to do you still got a 1ghz overclock so it is decent, nothing less nothing more.

that is unless you have lied to the community in your sig rig

anyhows i dont think that would help alot, since he has the optimal settings apart from his ram and thermal control, but the problem may lie elsewhere but i will wait for a response for my post and go from there.

only time will tell.
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Wow, lots of response. Appreciated. I shall try to answer them in chronological order. Post for Post.

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Originally Posted by DannyB0y View Post
Are you manually setting your ram speed or is it on auto?
The timings are set manually as described in my first post. These are the exact timings written on the RAM modules

The Memory Clock mode is manually set to unlinked as described in my first post.

The Memory Clock (QDR), Mhz is manually set to 1066Mhz as described in my first post.

However, you can set these last two values to anything you like, the post will still report 800mhz unless you enable SLI-Ready Memory. then the post will report 1066mhz regardless of what you set those last two values to.
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