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post #2041 of 4333
Haven't really noticed a difference in boot times as it normally boots in about 15 seconds anyhow, from when I select which OS to boot to.
If there is any truth that running the RAM @ 2000Mhz is harmful, I may just run @ 1800Mhz with the tighter timings.
Appreciate your knowledge on this Blitz .
Edited by crunchie - 10/11/10 at 4:35pm
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If by harmful you mean physically harmful, anything over 1333 MHz for your DDR3 is a 1090T IMC overclock. You know the deal, more volts = less life, even when adequately cooled, but I believe it to be marginal at best.

If by benchmarking harmful, I believe you are all expecting the same bottleneck created by the NB design on 790 chipsets as opposed to your newer 890s. I also believe EMI is lower because you guys have even more Copper oz. used and better quality design over all.

You know, lessons learned.
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Or DDR3-1066 if you have 8 GB of RAM. I have read in the past that the typical processor is designed to last ten years. Even if overvolting and overclocking takes two years off its life, I believe most people would have replaced it by then. It is only when you flagrantly ignore temperature (62º C for Thuban) and voltage (1.450 V for Thuban) tolerances that you bear the risk of shorting your lifespan to an appreciable degree.

I am reminded of someone who used to run a Denmark with a 0.300 V overvolt. Several hours of 10º C higher-than-usual ambient temperatures irreparably damaged the chip, requiring it to be ran at stock for the last six months of its life before it completely died.
     
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Or DDR3-1066 if you have 8 GB of RAM. I have read in the past that the typical processor is designed to last ten years. Even if overvolting and overclocking takes two years off its life, I believe most people would have replaced it by then. It is only when you flagrantly ignore temperature (62º C for Thuban) and voltage (1.450 V for Thuban) tolerances that you bear the risk of shorting your lifespan to an appreciable degree.

I am reminded of someone who used to run a Denmark with a 0.300 V overvolt. Several hours of 10º C higher-than-usual ambient temperatures irreparably damaged the chip, requiring it to be ran at stock for the last six months of its life before it completely died.
Blitz is 100% correct, and as far as life of the CPU, I whole heartedly agree with that. I haven't seen anything official about the 8 GB only supports 1066 MHz.

I will tell you from my recent (as of two days ago) experience that 8 GB of my OCZ Reapers @ 1600 MHz @ stock timings / volts on 965BE C3 was completely unstable, and now with the same memory on a 1090T is 100% stable with even tighter timings. The only thing I changed was the CPU itself. I was told even to get the CPU NB up to 1.300v and still not stable.

I would honestly think that the IMC officially supports 1333 MHz across the board, which allowed me to run it at 1600 MHz with my rated timings without a hitch. In other words, the IMC is more efficient and higher rated, making it much less of a leap to run at 1600 MHz, than it was for the 965 BE C3 to jump which only officially supported 1066 MHz. The CPU NB voltage I am currently testing is 1.225 with a NB frequency of 2800 MHz. So not only is my NB 800 MHz higher, with the memory's technical overclock and tight timings, I am still using 0.075 volts less, and its running fine.

I would go as far as to say that the 1800 MHz maybe even 2000 MHz (with slacker timings than stock) is probably the best you could achieve without going nuts on the CPU NB voltage.
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That actually is the difference between the C3 and the E0, the later of which has a far superior IMC. While I do not feel like pulling it up on AMD's website, Newegg mentions the RAM limitation:

Dual Channel PC3-10667U (DDR3-1333) for 2 Module, Dual Channel PC3-8500U (DDR3-1066), Dual Channel PC2-8500U (DDR2-1066)

Thus, with 2 DIMMs, DDR3-1333 is available. For three or more, it tops out at DDR3/DDR2-1066. I have also verified this myself. On the DDR3-1333 divider (x6.67), the RAM remains unstable regardless of my HTT (as low as 200) or the timings on the RAM. DDR3-1600 9-9-9-25-2T-24 @ 1.500 V (SPD for DDR3-1600) is a no-go even at 200x6.67. On the other hand, if I drop to the DDR3-1066 (x5.33) divider, I can push the HTT up to 300 MHz (DDR3-1600) with the timings close to their rated values of 7-8-7-24-2T-40, that being, 7-8-8-23-1T-31 using 1.410 V.

I think this is similar to the limitation of DDR1 K8s, in that more than 2 GB prohibited the use of the DDR-400 divider. Some boards would let it be set (like my DDR3-1333) but they would never stabilize. Drop the boards to DDR-333, and crank the HTT up, even DDR-500 was possible.
     
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what did they change in the ud7? Revision 2.0 to 2.1...
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It appears to be the same changes as on the UD5. The core unlock chip has been removed, although now it says "Core Boost" on the PCB, and the RAM has been changed from AABB to ABAB with the (supposed) ability to run DDR3-2000 on all four slots instead of DDR3-1866 on only two. I also notice there is another MOSFET up above the ATX connector where the Dolby icon used to be before it was moved down by the COM port. I wonder what that is for?
     
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I'm still reading through everyone's posts since I last posted, but wanted to update that I just got the email saying that they are shipping my motherboard back. They received the board Oct 5- confirmed by their previous email notice.

Quote:
Dear Valued Customer,

We appreciate you being patient with us.

We have finished testing your GIGABYTE product(s) and it is (they are) being returned back to you.
We'll see what I get back: new/different/repaired. My desktop will be down for almost two weeks, including shipping time, when I get it back...

http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...l#post10866155
Edited by Fir3Chi3f - 10/12/10 at 8:40pm
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my cpu and one ram stick died when I was running RAM at 2000 MHz
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What does it mean if your computer turns off completely while stress testing? Temperatures looked good and I had passed 10 LinX tests when the computer simply powered down. Is this another indicator that my overclock is unstable? This isn't the first time, but it's pretty rare.

On a related note, is 1.375V enough to run my CPU/NB at 2970MHz? I realize that every chip is different, but I'm looking for a ballpark. Thanks.
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