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I am at my parents' house, so not around anywhere as much as usual. Thanks for trying to explain UnexplodedCow, but you have one small typo. "Cores" tend to run 5-8º C warmer on almost any AMD CPU as compared to "CPU" temp. Thus, TMPIN1, the "CPU," is actually 5-8º C cooler than your CPU temp. If you add 13º C to the "Core" sensor on a Thuban, it puts you in that 5-8º C range. Thus, if you do not want to be bothered with the adding 13º C to "Core," you can subtract 5-8º C from the thermal spec (62º C), that being 54-57º C, and you can keep TMPIN1 below that range. Thus, the pessimist wants to keep TMPIN1 below 54º C at all times, whereas the optimist would permit 57º C. Subtracting 13º C from TMPIN1 gives a non-existent temperature.
If I add 13C to my "core" while idle, it breaks even with the CPU temp for my CPU. If under load, the two sensors read the same, so adding 5-8C would put me at 51-54C. If I add 13C to Core temp to compensate, I'd wind up with 59C for the actual. Considering my room is usually around 20C, internal case temp is 21C, and I have two fans on a hyper 212+, I doubt I'm getting that high with my OC. If I crank both fans up, the temps drop into the high 30's C, according to both sensors, which stay matched while under load. I also keep the infrared thermometer handy, and have it measure off the side of the IHS, which is usually in the high 30's to low 40's C when under load with lower fan speed. I'm learning to distrust thermal sensors more than ever with this board. But, at least between the two UD5s I've had, they both were consistent.

I guess my main point is that each CPU seems to measure differently. I also wonder if I'm the only one who has match CPU and Core temps in HWM without any adjustments. One of the two is incorrect.
Edited by UnexplodedCow - 12/23/10 at 11:19am
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I would tend to discredit the "Core" sensor. Both Thuban and Brisbane (among others) have had faulty sensors. Just go with the TMPIN1 + 5-8º C and call it quits. As to the Hyper212+ hitting 59º C at load with 3.71 GHz, I would believe that absolutely. Silence and efficiency do not always run hand-in-hand.
     
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What benching software should I be testing with once I start messing with the memory timings?
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I would tend to discredit the "Core" sensor. Both Thuban and Brisbane (among others) have had faulty sensors. Just go with the TMPIN1 + 5-8º C and call it quits. As to the Hyper212+ hitting 59º C at load with 3.71 GHz, I would believe that absolutely. Silence and efficiency do not always run hand-in-hand.

With 2 fans running 1800 rpm, which is faster than the 1400 rpm of a stock hyper 212, I would think that will push a considerable amount of air with good pressure.

Also, I have had the CPU temp in HWM hit 67C before, not Core, with an older heatsink, and the system did not shut down, or even throttle the processor. I would think it would do something by then, but nothing happened.
I would also call it quits if I didn't have contradicting info from the thermometer (that I have tested to be accurate by using known temps, and vs. other known good thermometers). It also has not changed the temp on the Hyper one bit by having the side off the case, with a 12" fan blowing on everything.

3.75 Ghz with 1.323 volts. What's also interesting is the CPU runs cooler, according to HWM, than with 1.475 volts and 3 cores running 3.6 Ghz. I would love to see someone come out with a thin metal pad that was sensitive enough to heat to noticeably change its resistance, to provide a more accurate IHS temp at least, which would be more indicative of die temp.

How much hotter do you think a CPU die itself would be if the IHS measures 38C? I highly doubt the actual die is 20C hotter . Just some food for thought.
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Hello everyone!
I'm new to this forum, I just put my system together and overclocked cpu using only multiplier for now to 3.8GHz, running prime95 to load test for stability I use SpeedFan to watch my temps. Can anyone tell me what Temp 1,2,3 are? I'm guessing Case,CPU,NB?
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Hello everyone!
I'm new to this forum, I just put my system together and overclocked cpu using only multiplier for now to 3.8GHz, running prime95 to load test for stability I use SpeedFan to watch my temps. Can anyone tell me what Temp 1,2,3 are? I'm guessing Case,CPU,NB?
Refer to 1st page.

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Q: In CPUID HWMonitor, which temp is what?
A: TMPIN0 = system temp; TMPIN1 = CPU temp; TMPIN2 = NB temp
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thanks for the heads up on the notice. will update when i redo the air cooling and again when i move to wc.

noticed tt you are running 3.7GHz. what are the temps for your setup?
I'm not at home to check them and it's been a while since I did so I can't recall off hand exactly.

I can tell you this much though, it's running on stock HSF in a case with poor airflow and the temps are low while playing BFBC2 on Very High settings or CS:S maxed out.

Stable all day and plenty of power on tap!

I can TAB in and out of Game without crashing and run apps in the background. I like to web-serf or play with images in the Adobe Suite between rounds.

Also, with it set to 3.7GHz I can run cool and quiet, which I like on my 24/7 rig.

It's been rock solid since inception and I wouldn't change a thing.

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How much hotter do you think a CPU die itself would be if the IHS measures 38C? I highly doubt the actual die is 20C hotter . Just some food for thought.
Possibly. To be honest, I have never tried. Let me ask you this: can you test the temperature of the base of the cooler compared to the tips of the heat pipes?
     
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Hey Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5 owners,

I been an owner for 1 month now.Love these Motherbroad finally retired my DFi N4 ultra.
My question is which are the benfits of F4 bios compared to F5?
I notice F6 come out anyone can shade some light on that revision of bios?
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If you are doing raid, stay away from F5 and F6.
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