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i really wish motherboard makers would include a speaker built onto the mobo. Would help so much... and the fact that i almost always forget to plug the case speaker in too lol.
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I had real problems with F6 on the girlfriend's quad core. Reverting to F3 solved it. Mainly it would take a very long time to post (minimum 30 seconds), and run dog slow. Resetting the BIOS didn't change anything, it had to be dropped back to F3. Curiously, it ran fine for a couple days, and then suddenly refused to do it anymore. As Blitz pointed out, F6 is supposed to be a hex core only BIOS, and I have to agree.
I haven't had any stability or boot time problems for a month and half now, it came with F6 and I won't flash unless necessary, i'll update the thread if issues arise.

I did recently change the fan setup so that a couple of case fans are hooked up to the sys fan headers, when powered on from sleep mode the emergency speaker comes on for a minute, by checking in hwmon it was reading 0rpm on the sys fan, even though they had actually spun up so i have just disabled the alarm in the bios. When hwmon is left running it does pick up some erratic maximums on the temps and fan rpms.
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i really wish motherboard makers would include a speaker built onto the mobo. Would help so much... and the fact that i almost always forget to plug the case speaker in too lol.
At the risk of looking really, really stupid, I found this picture of an item I've been ignoring and thought you might be interested.

The darned thing IS a mini-speaker! If you knew about this, and I'm sure you did, well then - yet again - the only one who learned anything here would be me.

If so, thanks for pointing up the obvious!
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nice reading on what kind of customer support they have, thats like the main thing for me to choose what kind of store i shop at. That beeing said and after hearing what you guys have said about gb support i probably wont buy another board from them again, BUT i have to say my ud7 have been working flawlessly. im even running the new corsair 3 ssd without any problems since i got it, other then the fact that i had to change the sata cable to a sertified cable when i one day woke up to a black screen saying "no boot disk found". but i havent upgraded my bios or anything, its like it came out of the box so im using F2, but i also have that mentality, "if it aint broke, dont fix it." so many times have i updated some drivers or something, just to have it make my system unstable,crash and give me pain in general.
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At the risk of looking really, really stupid, I found this picture of an item I've been ignoring and thought you might be interested.

The darned thing IS a mini-speaker! If you knew about this, and I'm sure you did, well then - yet again - the only one who learned anything here would be me.

If so, thanks for pointing up the obvious!

NZXT Beta cases come with these mini speakers only, which is a good idea, I think. I don't know why more case companies don't adopt this approach.


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3.5ghz - 1.472v
2ghz - 1.264v
1ghz - 1.168v

taken from cpuid. I don't think it's that bad.
Stock 3.2 Ghz should be 1.325v. 1.425 is for turbo mode only. 1.35 Ghz should not require 1.472 volts (which the BIOS is bumping to 1.475, but reading low).

@ 2Ghz, the chip can run on 1.1 volts without issue. I'm able to do 3.75 Ghz on 1.325 volts with my 1090T 24/7. 1Ghz (using a higher base clock..or whatever you want to call it), should be under 1 volt because the chips will do it no problem. These boards are dumping voltage into the chips. Yes, 1.475 is too high for turbo mode according to AMD. However, GB didn't offer a turbo mode voltage setting, which would make more sense. To avoid over-volting that much, just turn off turbo mode, and have the CPU run @ 3.6 Ghz. Chances are you'll do it just fine on 1.325 volts. That was one of the most annoying things on these boards, as the CPU will really start dumping heat after 1.375 volts, and by 1.475, it's emitting many more watts of heat, which is waste. Considering I try to run on the edge of overclocked and efficient, I don't like this. Check out AMD's spec on these chips, though, and you'll see what Blitz and I mean when we've said this board overvolts.
Edited by UnexplodedCow - 7/23/11 at 1:31pm
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nice reading on what kind of customer support they have, thats like the main thing for me to choose what kind of store i shop at. That beeing said and after hearing what you guys have said about gb support i probably wont buy another board from them again, BUT i have to say my ud7 have been working flawlessly.
Hey Stomped, please understand that I have no axe to grind here and, from what some of my friends on OCN have said via PM, I have been fairly restrained in my comments about Gigabyte boards.

With regard to your UD7 functioning nicely, I must say, as I believe I did, that I had the same experience with my UD3. On that basis I purchased the UD5 - and the rest is history.

However, what is important and you point nicely to the crux of the problem, is Support - or the lack thereof. That's what really matters.

For what it's worth, I have had exceptionally positive experiences with support from the following:

1) Corsair
2) ASUS
3) AMD
4) Amazon.com

True: I have purchased a lot of, a whole obscene lot of, computer equipment over the years. Much of that equipment has been very good and very trouble free. I only list the above mfrs. because I have seen them stand behind their products and services.

Two Trends over the years (22 years):

1) HP no longer manufacturers quality products - with the possible exception of (and who uses them?) its ink-jet printers. I used to swear by HP; Now I swear at them. My Xerox MultiFunction Printer, on the other hand, is bulletproof and fail-safe - kinda like HP used to be.

2) You cannot trust the very fine Taiwanese manufacturers blindly any more. For cost of manufacturing savings, they have moved their factories to China.

So all the manufacturers, even the really good ones, are capable of pushing out garbage. It's just how they tech-support/back up their products that counts. Remember, at least in the U.S., only 3 things matter in a purchasing decision: Price, price, price. And the manufacturers, regardless of nationality hear that Battle Cry.

One more factor: No matter how well a manufacturer supports its products and accepts RMA's of defective products, just how much time do you have to waste on RMA'ing?
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NZXT Beta cases come with these mini speakers only, which is a good idea, I think. I don't know why more case companies don't adopt this approach.
ya, i got one with my haf 932 as well, but i just wish they came with the mobo instead.



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Stock 3.2 Ghz should be 1.325v. 1.425 is for turbo mode only. 1.35 Ghz should not require 1.472 volts (which the BIOS is bumping to 1.475, but reading low).

@ 2Ghz, the chip can run on 1.1 volts without issue. I'm able to do 3.75 Ghz on 1.325 volts with my 1090T 24/7. 1Ghz (using a higher base clock..or whatever you want to call it), should be under 1 volt because the chips will do it no problem. These boards are dumping voltage into the chips. Yes, 1.475 is too high for turbo mode according to AMD. However, GB didn't offer a turbo mode voltage setting, which would make more sense. To avoid over-volting that much, just turn off turbo mode, and have the CPU run @ 3.6 Ghz. Chances are you'll do it just fine on 1.325 volts. That was one of the most annoying things on these boards, as the CPU will really start dumping heat after 1.375 volts, and by 1.475, it's emitting many more watts of heat, which is waste. Considering I try to run on the edge of overclocked and efficient, I don't like this. Check out AMD's spec on these chips, though, and you'll see what Blitz and I mean when we've said this board overvolts.
u have to remember that i'm on a c2 deneb chip. I do not have a thuban which is why my voltage is so high. Also remember too is that i have unlocked cpu as well. There's no way in hell my chip will be stable at 1.325v. While i do admit, when it's at 2ghz, the voltage is high, i honestly do not see it very often. Even when i watch movies, it stays at 1ghz oddly.

I'm guessing it's a thuban thing because of the turbo mode which is why you r getting so much volts? Also, the way i see it, it's still less voltage then when CnQ is not on so all the better i think.
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u have to remember that i'm on a c2 deneb chip. I do not have a thuban which is why my voltage is so high. Also remember too is that i have unlocked cpu as well. There's no way in hell my chip will be stable at 1.325v. While i do admit, when it's at 2ghz, the voltage is high, i honestly do not see it very often. Even when i watch movies, it stays at 1ghz oddly.

I'm guessing it's a thuban thing because of the turbo mode which is why you r getting so much volts? Also, the way i see it, it's still less voltage then when CnQ is not on so all the better i think.
Not really, because I currently have the girlfriend using the board with a C2 965. Stock voltage for those is 1.425, and those things are 140 watt models. My old board wanted to feed 1.425, but went higher on F6. Reverted to F3, and then lowered the voltage futher to 1.325, running @ stock clocks, and perfectly stable. Again, those volts are not correct.
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Gigabyte's official line is: unless you're using a CPU that requires the F5 BIOS or newer, do not use it. (1075T or 1100T, for example.)

You should be able to install Windows 7 without needing any RAID driver discs, as Windows is supposed to natively support it.
Well I finally solved the problem changing the version of windows 7 I was using (installed a SP1), although I had to use the drivers on a pendrive.

Sadly yesterday I started having stability problems in the form of BOSDs. During this time (two weeks) I had 2 of them while playing world of warcraft but I didn't worried... last night i had like 5 of them, and two where during windows startup so it got me worried...

I installed OCCT to test the system stability and I got another one so then I decided to test the ram 'cause along with the raid 0 it came 4gb of ram to a total of 8gb (4x2gb). Now I'm at work but the moment I got up (I left the test running all night) the Memtest had done 3 whole test with 0 errors so now I'm worried that the raid 0 could be the issue.

On the other side I updated my bios to F6 before the OS installation... Anyone can give me some heads up on what to do next?
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I would jump back to F3 revision personally. My experiences with a Deneb X4 chip on F6 were not good, unstable, and simply put, problematic. Rolling to F3 literally solved all the issues (Windows crashing, slow POSTing, going to Windows incorrect shutdown screen on startup, crashing programs, etc.). Heck, most of the Thuban users seem to run F3 as well. I ran F6 when I had the board with a Thuban as it ran best for me, but was far from the case with the 965 Deneb. Try reverting, and then see how things are.
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