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[Project] Loricatus Tropical Incendia (Armored Tropical Fire) {ever evolving}

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EDIT: As of 12/17/2010, the rig has been renamed Loricatus Tropical Incendia.

As promised, I have ordered the parts for my new build. The build, as per my sig rig, will contain:

Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5
AMD PhenomII x6 1090T "Thuban"
G.Skill "ECO" DDR3-1600
and four Samsung F3 1TB in RAID 10
(total cost is $920)

All in my priorly powder-coated Thermaltake Armor. I am currently waiting on the new cold cathodes to get here -- as I am changing my current red to white -- and will likely start building Tuesday when they are scheduled to arrive.

Ever wonder what $300 worth of hard drives in a $10 cage looks like? Me too!



Because my camera skills suck (as I just proved above), I have decided to place my RAM and CPU on the scanner. Yes, they are still in the packages, but I am too lazy (wussy) to take them out until I am installing them.




There will be updates starting next Wednesday the latest, I promise. At that time, expect to see pictures of assembly, and hopefully, better cable management than I usually do.
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Mmmm subbing this.

Why not scan the HDD's lol
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They were a little annoying to put in the cage. I have to say, the 1TBs are seriously heavier than my 750 GB. I thought my 750 GB 32mb Hitachi 7K1000 had three platters, these have two, maybe I am mistaken?
     
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They were a little annoying to put in the cage. I have to say, the 1TBs are seriously heavier than my 750 GB. I thought my 750 GB 32mb Hitachi 7K1000 had three platters, these have two, maybe I am mistaken?
They have (4) 200GB platters.

Samsung F3's are 500GB platters

http://techreport.com/articles.x/13034
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Still, four platters to two should be heavier, but unless my memory is mistaken, its not.

For the record, that fully-laiden hard drive cage comes in at 2.8 Kg.
     
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that's crazy raid 0 over there
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that's crazy raid 0 over there
He's gonna run a RAID 10 array .
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Yeah, the idea of quadrupling my fault rate without adjusting my fault tolerance did not really appeal to me. Would I like the speed? Sure. Do I think it is worth the risk? Maybe not.

To demonstrate, let me assume that the average hard drive has a 2% chance of failure within five years.

For a RAID 0 to die, any of the four drives may die. Since each has a 2% failure rate:

P(d0) \\/ P(d1) \\/ P(d2) \\/ P(d3) = 0.02 + 0.02 + 0.02 + 0.02 = 0.08 = 8%

For a RAID 10 to die, you need to kill two drives of the same mirror. Killing one drive off each mirror will not kill the RAID. So if drive a0 dies, a1 must also die; losing b0 or b1 will not do it. With each having a 2% failure rate:

(P(a0) /\\ P(a1)) \\/ (P(b0) /\\ P(b1)) = (0.02 * 0.02) + (0.02 * 0.02) = 0.0004 + 0.0004 = 0.0008 = 0.08%

As I was also considering RAID 5 for a while, as it has 50% more storage than RAID 10, so I will discuss that now; I ultimately decided against it due to the CPU overhead since I cannot (at this time) afford a PERC card as Tator Tot suggests I get. To kill a RAID 5 array, you must kill any two drives you want. Keeping that same 2% failure rate:

(P(d0) /\\ (P(d1) \\/ P(d2) \\/ P(d3)) \\/ (P(d1) /\\ (P(d2) \\/ P(d3)) \\/ (P(d2) \\/ P(d3)) = (0.02 * (0.02 + 0.02 + 0.02)) + (0.02 * (0.02 + 0.02)) + (0.02 * 0.02) = (0.02 * 0.06) + (0.02 * 0.04) + (0.02 * 0.02) = 0.02 * (0.06 + 0.04 + 0.02) = 0.02 * 0.12 = 0.0024 = 0.24%

In summation:

RAID 0:
  • 8% failure rate
  • four times greater than a single drive
  • Capacity = 4 TB
  • Fastest of the three
RAID 5:
  • 0.24% failure rate
  • eight-and-a-third times less than a single drive
  • Capacity = 3 TB
  • Slowest of the three without a dedicated card
RAID 10:
  • 0.08% failure rate
  • twenty-five times less than a single drive
  • one-hundred times less than RAID 0
  • three times less than RAID 5
  • Capacity = 2 TB
  • Faster than a single drive, slower than RAID 0
Sure, I have a lot of missing capacity with RAID 10, but since I am going to partition such that I am only using about 600-700 GiB, what does it matter?
     
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$900.00 for a few parts Do you know how many starving Americans can eat off of $900.00 ? Not many would be my guess ... Have you had a chance to bench test your new hardware. I'm curious as to how well the Ram plays w/the cpu/mobo combo ...
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Nope. I only have one PSU and GPU, so in order to test the new parts, I have to make the rig inoperable. As I hate my laptop, I am holding off on that as long as possible. Once this is all squared away, I will also reformat the laptop; I figure it is good to have both rigs on clean installs at the same time.
     
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