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You've got *more* than enough CPU power for ZFS. The only thing is RAM, as zfs likes to use about as much ram as it can get its hands on, however there is a plateau affect on it (as with all things), and you can tweak zfs and limit the amount of ram it can use for caching.

Hell, I used to run raidz2 (raid6 equivalent) on this core i3 with only 4GB of ram in a virtualbox vm on a windows 7 host, without hiccup (granted, the virtualbox vm was just a nas, and I did pass through the block device to virtualbox). But I noticed no issues what so ever. And now that this file server is on a dedicated machine, it runs even better.

One of the other cool things, is you can create what is called a "zvol", which is a ZFS backed block device and pass that to the VM (depending on configuration and hypervisor), getting the CoW filesystem with data integrity checks, compression, and any other ZFS features you have enabled.

what about dual socket 771 quads? i'm building a second server. maybe once i do that i can back every thing up so i can back up ESXi 6. (i run esxi 6 on my raid 5). i also use enterprise drives.
If it runs on FB-Dimm RAM then skip it.
You will need really fast fans to keep those sticks cool.
Not sure if there are dual 771 that run on normal DDR2.

Not to mention that these cpu are pretty slow compared to modern ones.
2x E5420 (80W, 2.5ghz) in my case gets ~6.0 in cinebench 11.5
Thuban @4Ghz gets 7.2
Sandy or newer Xeon with HT can easily beat those 771.
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If it runs on FB-Dimm RAM then skip it.
You will need really fast fans to keep those sticks cool.
Not sure if there are dual 771 that run on normal DDR2.

Not to mention that these cpu are pretty slow compared to modern ones.
2x E5420 (80W, 2.5ghz) in my case gets ~6.0 in cinebench 11.5
Thuban @4Ghz gets 7.2
Sandy or newer Xeon with HT can easily beat those 771.

everything was free except mobos, i can handle making a good cooling system
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If it runs on FB-Dimm RAM then skip it.
You will need really fast fans to keep those sticks cool.
Not sure if there are dual 771 that run on normal DDR2.

Not to mention that these cpu are pretty slow compared to modern ones.
2x E5420 (80W, 2.5ghz) in my case gets ~6.0 in cinebench 11.5
Thuban @4Ghz gets 7.2
Sandy or newer Xeon with HT can easily beat those 771.

everything was free except mobos, i can handle making a good cooling system

From my experience.
One fan(server grade) - 75-80°C
Two fans(server grade + 2000RPM normal)- 60-70°C

3000-4000RPM fans may be useful.

Watercooling however would be the best and the quietest method.
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1. Onboard SATA Cables: I used a NZXT 4 SATA to 4 SATA sleeved 90 Degree connector cables (very stiff had to cut the sheathing to allow some slack)
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4. Startech PY04SATA 4 port SATA cable (similar to above without cap but longer so you can add your own inline SATA power connector; I did this to add a 5th connector for the Node's fan controller which was routed to behind the rear hard drive cage.

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what about dual socket 771 quads? i'm building a second server. maybe once i do that i can back every thing up so i can back up ESXi 6. (i run esxi 6 on my raid 5). i also use enterprise drives.

EDIT: those core i3s certain models can murder core 2 quads in certain computations and apis.

You are putting *way* too much emphasis on the CPU. There isn't *taht* much cpu computations involved. dual 771 quads will run it just fine. Your limitation will more so be the amount ram than anything.
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You are putting *way* too much emphasis on the CPU. There isn't *taht* much cpu computations involved. dual 771 quads will run it just fine. Your limitation will more so be the amount ram than anything.

Yup. You're right... still those old CPUs are not going to be worth the trouble to get running. I took out of my rack my 2 DL360 G5 (Dual Quad E5450 3Ghz 32Gb DDR2 FBDIMM 6x146Gb SAS 10k P400 512mb raid6) and my 2 DL380 G5 (Dual Quad X5450 3Ghz 32Gb DDR2 FBDIMM 8x146Gb SAS 10k P800/P400 512mb) because they were starting to make too much heat and cost too much $ to run compared to the last DL360 G6 and DL380 G7 I got to replace them. They are good servers I'm not saying they aren't, it's just now they are too expensive to run and they generate too much heat compared to much more powerful 12 cores westmere ep G6 and G7 that will draw more than half the power and dissipate a lot less heat while giving more than twice the computing power for not that much more $ if you know where to look for them.
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Using FreeNAS, non-ECC RAM and ZFS Array.

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From my experience.
One fan(server grade) - 75-80°C
Two fans(server grade + 2000RPM normal)- 60-70°C

3000-4000RPM fans may be useful.

Watercooling however would be the best and the quietest method.

might help to cool the back of the mobo too. WC might be possible cause the chips are close ...or that may work against that. might be possible to AS5 epoxy plates on the sides and tops of the ram. lol.
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Using FreeNAS, non-ECC RAM and ZFS Array. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Loving my server, best thing I've ever bought and built. Not using it to backup anything so I couldn't really care less about paying more for ECC ram! Not had a URE in over a year. *touch wood*

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How much does freenas store in ram? What if the power goes out?
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