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Found a lot of really cheap registered/buffered ECC RAM at less than 15 USD but need Opteron or Xeons for them. Non-registered/buffered RAM is more expensive but can still be found for around the same price as regular RAM and as I need more RAM for my server I think I'll get some anyway.

I have tons of ecc ram if that's what you are needing.
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I want to eventually get an dual Opteron setup rolleyes.gif
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Found a lot of really cheap registered/buffered ECC RAM at less than 15 USD but need Opteron or Xeons for them. Non-registered/buffered RAM is more expensive but can still be found for around the same price as regular RAM and as I need more RAM for my server I think I'll get some anyway.

I can not speak for AMD, but on Intel some Celeron and Pentium chips support ECC. My freenas server was using a Pentium with ECC before the bigger Xeon was added for plex. My pfSense router is also using ECC with a $30 Celeron. You just need to check the Intel Ark page before you buy. Pretty sure there are a few i3 chips too.

All AMD CPU's since the Phenom era at least support ECC, the problems are that most motherboards don't and the RAM has to be unbuffered rather than registered. I've found a lot of registered RAM for extremely cheap (12 USD for 8GB) but UDIMM's are almost thrice the price so I would rather go with a cheap Xeon system and save money in the long term than save money on the CPU and spend more because the RAM is more expensive.

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Found a lot of really cheap registered/buffered ECC RAM at less than 15 USD but need Opteron or Xeons for them. Non-registered/buffered RAM is more expensive but can still be found for around the same price as regular RAM and as I need more RAM for my server I think I'll get some anyway.


I can not speak for AMD, but on Intel some Celeron and Pentium chips support ECC. My freenas server was using a Pentium with ECC before the bigger Xeon was added for plex. My pfSense router is also using ECC with a $30 Celeron. You just need to check the Intel Ark page before you buy. Pretty sure there are a few i3 chips too.
All AMD CPU's since the Phenom era at least support ECC, the problems are that most motherboards don't and the RAM has to be unbuffered rather than registered. I've found a lot of registered RAM for extremely cheap (12 USD for 8GB) but UDIMM's are almost thrice the price so I would rather go with a cheap Xeon system and save money in the long term than save money on the CPU and spend more because the RAM is more expensive.

x2 because FreeNAS loves ram more than CPU anyway.
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All AMD CPU's since the Phenom era at least support ECC, the problems are that most motherboards don't and the RAM has to be unbuffered rather than registered. I've found a lot of registered RAM for extremely cheap (12 USD for 8GB) but UDIMM's are almost thrice the price so I would rather go with a cheap Xeon system and save money in the long term than save money on the CPU and spend more because the RAM is more expensive.

The unbuffered ECC i am using is cheap. About the same as normal RAM. The regustered ECC in my game hosting server (came with it) is something like twice the price. But it is, in the end all down to usage. If i did not have plex on my freenas box, the pentium would have been fine. Never used more than 20-50% load for anyrhing. Usually sat at 0-2%. The quad core xeon is just helpfull for transcoding in plex. Thats it. What is the point of a really powerfull cpu if all the server is for is home storage? You are basically paying more for nothing. Where as spending a little extra for ECC actually is a good thing for that added data security/reliability. Or you can just go my route and do the xeon and the ECC. ECC and a lower spec server /workstation board with ECC support are a small price to pay for data integrity.

But, thats me.
 
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All AMD CPU's since the Phenom era at least support ECC, the problems are that most motherboards don't and the RAM has to be unbuffered rather than registered. I've found a lot of registered RAM for extremely cheap (12 USD for 8GB) but UDIMM's are almost thrice the price so I would rather go with a cheap Xeon system and save money in the long term than save money on the CPU and spend more because the RAM is more expensive.

The unbuffered ECC i am using is cheap. About the same as normal RAM. The regustered ECC in my game hosting server (came with it) is something like twice the price. But it is, in the end all down to usage. If i did not have plex on my freenas box, the pentium would have been fine. Never used more than 20-50% load for anyrhing. Usually sat at 0-2%. The quad core xeon is just helpfull for transcoding in plex. Thats it. What is the point of a really powerfull cpu if all the server is for is home storage? You are basically paying more for nothing. Where as spending a little extra for ECC actually is a good thing for that added data security/reliability. Or you can just go my route and do the xeon and the ECC. ECC and a lower spec server /workstation board with ECC support are a small price to pay for data integrity.

But, thats me.

8GB registered 1333MHz for 75 RMB.

Samsung:

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?scm=1007.10009.31621.100200300000001&id=524256561945&pvid=6cadf820-8492-46a6-b224-ff9d8dd0118e

 

Hynix:

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?scm=1007.10009.31621.100200300000001&id=525988905870&pvid=918a28c5-abc3-446f-9775-6ccc9508e1c4

 

8GB unregistered Hynix 1600MHz for 200:

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35150425532&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail

 

I've given you the prices so you don't need to wait for half an hour for the pages to load. As you can see RDIMM is far cheaper than UDIMM, which is why I'm getting RDIMM instead. Potentially I could get a G6950 for 5 USD (they are that cheap) over an X3430 (about 22 USD) but then the price difference in RAM will make the G6950 more expensive, especially if I need more than 8GB. The other problem is that due to the nature of UDIMM I will be limited to 16GB maximum instead of the 32GB maximum I would have with RDIMM, so to me it's an obvious choice.

 

Edit: this is the board I'm intending to get. The board supports 1333MHz only and speed isn't nearly as important to me as price and amount. While I'm not sure I will using FreeNas (Win 8.1 Storage Spaces seems so easy to use), I still want to have the ability to add more RAM just in case and have flexibility in the platform.


http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3400/X8SIL.cfm?IPMI=Y


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Found a lot of really cheap registered/buffered ECC RAM at less than 15 USD but need Opteron or Xeons for them. Non-registered/buffered RAM is more expensive but can still be found for around the same price as regular RAM and as I need more RAM for my server I think I'll get some anyway.

I have tons of ecc ram if that's what you are needing.

I don't know where you live but I assume shipping costs would exceed the price I can get the DIMM for here.

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Xeon E1230 (Sandy)
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nice should be a good server. just like mine but slightly different hard drives. thumb.gif
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nice should be a good server. just like mine but slightly different hard drives. thumb.gif

Thanks man!

In terms of VM's and file serving it does a wonderful job. Having all the VM's on the SSD helps a lot.

Love the IPMI too, best feature.
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