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Before i spend some real money to build a $500 File server i am using some old hardware to see if it benefit me in any way.

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Not sure what OS to get for this which i plan to use for the real server i will build. I know i cant run Linux because i have 2 programs that require Windows to run.
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Depending what your final plans are, you can get a copy of Windows Home Server off newegg for around 50 bucks.

I like version 1.

Make a nice quad core with like 4-8gigs of ram, not real expensive, and should be perfect for backup, media server, whatever you need smile.gifthumb.gif
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Depending what your final plans are, you can get a copy of Windows Home Server off newegg for around 50 bucks.
I like version 1.
Make a nice quad core with like 4-8gigs of ram, not real expensive, and should be perfect for backup, media server, whatever you need smile.gifthumb.gif

No point in getting 8 gigs of RAM if using WHS v1, it is 32 bit only.
WHS 2011 is 64 bit only.
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Originally Posted by ChRoNo16 View Post

Depending what your final plans are, you can get a copy of Windows Home Server off newegg for around 50 bucks.
I like version 1.
Make a nice quad core with like 4-8gigs of ram, not real expensive, and should be perfect for backup, media server, whatever you need smile.gifthumb.gif

Why? WHS is (in my opinion at least) one of the most pointless OSs Microsoft have ever released (and they've released a lot of crappy OS's)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChRoNo16 View Post

Depending what your final plans are, you can get a copy of Windows Home Server off newegg for around 50 bucks.
I like version 1.
Make a nice quad core with like 4-8gigs of ram, not real expensive, and should be perfect for backup, media server, whatever you need smile.gifthumb.gif

Why? WHS is (in my opinion at least) one of the most pointless OSs Microsoft have ever released (and they've released a lot of crappy OS's)

WHS 2011 is an amazing product. Sure a Linux OS can provide all the same features for free, but requires much more setup. For the average user, WHS gives you everything you need and relatively simple setup.
- Shared folders with automatic back-up
- Automatic Client and Server back-ups
- Remote web access to files and on-the-fly transcoding that works on as little as 50 kB/s upload speeds
- Remote management from your smart phone


Normally you can find a copy for $40 every couple weeks if you keep an eye out for it. The only downside I found with WHS is customizing the web site it provides isn't that easy and the remote media player requires Silverlight which makes it inaccessible to most phones.
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WHS 2011 is an amazing product. Sure a Linux OS can provide all the same features for free, but requires much more setup. For the average user, WHS gives you everything you need and relatively simple setup.
- Shared folders with automatic back-up
- Automatic Client and Server back-ups
- Remote web access to files and on-the-fly transcoding that works on as little as 50 kB/s upload speeds
- Remote management from your smart phone
Normally you can find a copy for $40 every couple weeks if you keep an eye out for it. The only downside I found with WHS is customizing the web site it provides isn't that easy and the remote media player requires Silverlight which makes it inaccessible to most phones.

This is exactly why I steer away of Microsoft and Apple products. I'd rather spend an extra hour installing my own NAS and have something flexible than have a "one size fits all" solution that refuses to work with competitors hardware / software. In the end you just sell yourself short as you end up with a substandard solution.

* steps off his soap box
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Quote:
Originally Posted by axipher View Post

WHS 2011 is an amazing product. Sure a Linux OS can provide all the same features for free, but requires much more setup. For the average user, WHS gives you everything you need and relatively simple setup.
- Shared folders with automatic back-up
- Automatic Client and Server back-ups
- Remote web access to files and on-the-fly transcoding that works on as little as 50 kB/s upload speeds
- Remote management from your smart phone
Normally you can find a copy for $40 every couple weeks if you keep an eye out for it. The only downside I found with WHS is customizing the web site it provides isn't that easy and the remote media player requires Silverlight which makes it inaccessible to most phones.

This is exactly why I steer away of Microsoft and Apple products. I'd rather spend an extra hour installing my own NAS and have something flexible than have a "one size fits all" solution that refuses to work with competitors hardware / software. In the end you just sell yourself short as you end up with a substandard solution.

* steps off his soap box

This is why I'm currently looking at on-the-fly web transcoding options for Ubuntu, haven't found and stellar ones though that offer the same experience as WHS's option. I do enjoy the automatic client back-up though of all computers on the network. Being able to flawlessly manage back-ups of over 10 PC's on my house has been a godsend seeing as most of them are student's with poor back-up habits.
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This is why I'm currently looking at on-the-fly web transcoding options for Ubuntu, haven't found and stellar ones though that offer the same experience as WHS's option. I do enjoy the automatic client back-up though of all computers on the network. Being able to flawlessly manage back-ups of over 10 PC's on my house has been a godsend seeing as most of them are student's with poor back-up habits.

audio or video?

I use mpd for audio (you can mix and match your front end) and media tomb for video (only over the LAN though as it's a uPnP media server)

[edit]

also sorry for being all preachy earlier. I just have a bee in my bonnet about companies that are deliberately uncooperative.
Edited by Plan9 - 4/17/12 at 6:38am
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This is why I'm currently looking at on-the-fly web transcoding options for Ubuntu, haven't found and stellar ones though that offer the same experience as WHS's option. I do enjoy the automatic client back-up though of all computers on the network. Being able to flawlessly manage back-ups of over 10 PC's on my house has been a godsend seeing as most of them are student's with poor back-up habits.

audio or video?

I use mpd for audio (you can mix and match your front end) and media tomb for video (only over the LAN though as it's a uPnP media server)

[edit]

also sorry for being all preachy earlier. I just have a bee in my bonnet about companies that are deliberately uncooperative.

Both audio and video and remote access would be nice. Although I don't mind setting up multiple programs if some are better than other at certain things.

I'll look in to MDP and MediaTomb tonight. I'm thinking of trying out XBMC and Boxee OS's on my HTPC to replace Windows 7 I'm using now. I'm assuming MediaTomb's uPnP service should work fine with either of those options.

And no problem man, I see where you're coming from in regards to companies not being cooperative. At least Silverlight is a little more open then some things.
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Both audio and video and remote access would be nice. Although I don't mind setting up multiple programs if some are better than other at certain things.
I'll look in to MDP and MediaTomb tonight.
Shout if you need any help smile.gif
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I'm thinking of trying out XBMC and Boxee OS's on my HTPC to replace Windows 7 I'm using now. I'm assuming MediaTomb's uPnP service should work fine with either of those options.
Most definitely. They're both essentially the same anyway as Boxee is based on XBMC (I thought Boxee had discontinued it's PC support though. Surprised to hear there's still a Boxee OS floating about). In fact you can use a uPnP client on your phone and (on android at least) when I click a video to play it gives me the option to play on the phone or play on my XBMC media centre. You can also get XBMC remotes (you need the web interface enabled on XBMC) which are apps that run on your phone / tablet and allow you to use them as a remote control for your media centre.

Personally, I'd recommend you install XBMCbuntu. It's XBMC's official OS installer and (as you've already guessed) it's based off Ubuntu. So it should be a familiar internals to what you're used to plus a stress free way to get XBMC on your media centre (I think it works as a live CD too). Check their site for more details.
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And no problem man, I see where you're coming from in regards to companies not being cooperative. At least Silverlight is a little more open then some things.
This is the problem though, Silverlight isn't more open - it only pretends to be. I can't run Netflix on my system because Netflix depends on DRM extensions in Silverlight that MS never released to Linux. So I either have to run XBMC in Windows and loose some of the other Linux features I use (not all that appealing) or loose Netflix. And what's most frustrating is that Netflix offers unlimited bandwidth and unlimited numbers of videos views - so the DRM is completely pointless as you'd just stream from the cloud rather than spend all that extra time pratting about with ripping the stream and then filling your own storage up. So in the movie industries attempt to reduce piracy, they've instead made it hard to watch things legitimately thus making the piracy route more attractive. (and now I'm back on my soap box! maybe I should start a blog lol)

Seriously though, the IT sector is in a serious mess and it's not all one sided with the downloaders being at fault frown.gif . Us good guys get screwed left, right and centre.
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