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post #681 of 1598
5/11/12 at 11:12am
Drive temp is a SMART function, but backplane temperature is what I was referring to. I would like to go with SAS...full duplex. WD got rid of their TLER tool because people were buying regular drives, using this tool, and using the drives with RAID cards instead of buying into their enterprise drive scheme. I'm confident that there is nothing different about the drives that make them last longer. If you pay more for a drive, you get a better warranty. It's not that they are backing the product more for free. You pay for it.
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5/11/12 at 11:20am
I'll be upgrading my 52TB server soon with faster parts and more bandwidth for parity syncs. Currently getting about 65MB/s during them, and this should allow me to get about 105MB/s, with the drives being the limiting factor.
http://www.overclock.net/t/987494/52tb-unraid-server/0_50

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182235

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231440

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post #683 of 1598
5/11/12 at 11:41am
You might want to check your choice of RAM. Will it even work? I'd just get ECC and call it a day. It's only 4 GB you're getting. It will only add ~$20 to the build, and peace of mind that your parity is being calculated correctly.
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5/11/12 at 11:59am
Yeah I don't believe that ram will work. The details of the newegg page state:
Supports up to 32 GB DDR3 ECC Registered memory (RDIMM) in 6 DIMM sockets Supports up to 16 GB DDR3 ECC Un-Buffered memory (UDIMM) in 4 DIMM sockets

And according to the user manual page 2-10 & 2-11:
Code:
Platform DIMM Type Intel® Xeon® Series Processors X8SIA/X8SIA-F 

Non-ECC UDIMM Only               Not Supported
ECC UDIMM Only                   Supported (see Table 1)
RDIMM Only (with ECC)            Supported (see Table 2)
Mixed ECC with non-ECC           Not Supported
Mixed UDIMM/RDIMM                Not Supported
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post #685 of 1598
5/11/12 at 7:32pm
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Yeah I don't believe that ram will work. The details of the newegg page state:
Supports up to 32 GB DDR3 ECC Registered memory (RDIMM) in 6 DIMM sockets Supports up to 16 GB DDR3 ECC Un-Buffered memory (UDIMM) in 4 DIMM sockets
And according to the user manual page 2-10 & 2-11:
Code:
Platform DIMM Type Intel® Xeon® Series Processors X8SIA/X8SIA-F 
Non-ECC UDIMM Only               Not Supported
ECC UDIMM Only                   Supported (see Table 1)
RDIMM Only (with ECC)            Supported (see Table 2)
Mixed ECC with non-ECC           Not Supported
Mixed UDIMM/RDIMM                Not Supported

It will work that's only for xeon processors. I have a supermicro board currently that says the same thing and I have non-ecc ram in it. The board only supports ECC ram with a xeon processor from what I read too, which is much more expensive than a i3.

It's says "Supports up to 16 GB DDR3 ECC Un-Buffered memory (UDIMM) in 4 DIMM sockets". That's exactly what non-ecc RAM is unless i'm mistaken. tongue.gif
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You might want to check your choice of RAM. Will it even work? I'd just get ECC and call it a day. It's only 4 GB you're getting. It will only add ~$20 to the build, and peace of mind that your parity is being calculated correctly.

I see 8GB. 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Edited by Murlocke - 5/11/12 at 7:41pm
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5/11/12 at 11:00pm
Actually there is a difference between ECC un-buffered ram and non-ecc ram. Here is an article that shows the difference between the U and R counterparts of ECC http://www.servethehome.com/unbuffered-registered-ecc-memory-difference-ecc-udimms-rdimms/

I could see how using non-ecc ram may be supported as the memory controller is on the processor itself. I would be a little weary myself though.
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5/12/12 at 4:33am
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Drive temp is a SMART function, but backplane temperature is what I was referring to. I would like to go with SAS...full duplex. WD got rid of their TLER tool because people were buying regular drives, using this tool, and using the drives with RAID cards instead of buying into their enterprise drive scheme. I'm confident that there is nothing different about the drives that make them last longer. If you pay more for a drive, you get a better warranty. It's not that they are backing the product more for free. You pay for it.
Gotcha! Normally if the drive temps are ok the backplanes should be ok as well... but i get what you were refering to. that sure was crap that WD removed the ability to alter TLER which made me switch over to Hitachi drives, now they aquired Hitachi. My first setup was 8x1TB WD Fals drives and when i had to rma one drive, it was locked out of the tool. For home servers consumer grade drives work well for our setups.


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I'll be upgrading my 52TB server soon with faster parts and more bandwidth for parity syncs. Currently getting about 65MB/s during them, and this should allow me to get about 105MB/s, with the drives being the limiting factor. http://www.overclock.net/t/987494/52tb-unraid-server/0_50
Going to be grabbing these:
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182235
Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115065
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231440
SAS Card (x3):
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6 SAS cables. 24 drives FTW.
nice unraid build ...really nice work on the cable management!thumb.gif
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5/12/12 at 8:39pm
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In the Works
So wanted to update my server.
Server plays many roles.

ftp server
file server
backup server
Media streaming
media converting
DLT backups

So this is what i came up with..

ASUS P8B WS LGA 1155 Intel C206 ATX Intel Xeon E3 Server/Workstation Motherboard
Intel Xeon E3-1245 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Server Processor
Kingston 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) ECC Unbuffered Server Memory
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COUGAR CF-V12HP Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing 3x
Intel SC5650WS Case
SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold Power Supply

looking at this for storage
Anyone have thoughts on the Adaptec RAID 6805
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816103220

looking to run 6x Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844

Running in raid 6...

Full Front Shot
700

Full rear Shot
700

Inside
450

Raid
700

CD\DVD Burner- LTO 4 Tape and SSD Vault
450

What she is replacing on rack.
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Stock photo of rack kit
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5/12/12 at 8:40pm
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Actually there is a difference between ECC un-buffered ram and non-ecc ram. Here is an article that shows the difference between the U and R counterparts of ECC http://www.servethehome.com/unbuffered-registered-ecc-memory-difference-ecc-udimms-rdimms/
I could see how using non-ecc ram may be supported as the memory controller is on the processor itself. I would be a little weary myself though.

You are right. To use an i3 on that board I need ECC Unbuffered.

Thanks for the catch, I will switch my RAM. thumb.gif
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5/12/12 at 10:17pm
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snip..

wow, nice server case, may I ask what make and model is the case? The one with the 6 inbuilt drive trays. Thx~
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