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Why does her mouth look funny? Looks like she has a hotdog on her left side...

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she is picturing my hot dog
    
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SIMAP seems to be up and working again...

After days of troubles, eOn2 is now running again. My first ever task on eOn2 lasted 125 seconds! LOL! Subsequent tasks look about the same... so that seems odd to me. A lot of small tasks would seem to easily overload the server, but what do I know...

Climate Prediction and Orbit are down for the duration I guess. Seems Orbit lost funding or something and I haven't checked lately on Climate Prediction...

EDGeS@Home is running, average maybe 17 min tasks.

Leiden Classical crunching along better, WU's vary from around 20min to 1hr15min or so.

Poem@Home is interesting. It has varied tasks as well running from around 15min on up to about 1hr5min or so. It's doing cancer peptide stuff (no, I have no idea what it is). I imagine the different WU lengths are different sub tasks, but haven't paid close enough attention to the WU names to say for sure. There are no task selection options there, so I have no way to know.

GPUGrid running on only ONE of my GPU's in one system averages 11.5 to 14 hours or so. They give a 25% bonus to complete within 48 hours I am told... so far all tasks run 100% without stopping due to my settings. LONG tasks!!! I had a shutdown due to power outage and overloaded UPS that didn't work (fixed now) and I let it restart. It ran, then compute errored out at the end. So now if system glitches, I abort the task and start a new task. So far I micromanage GPUGrid because I am not sure I want to run it wide open or run it at all. I sure don't want to hog two GPU's for 13 hours so only allow 1 task to download at a time.

So that's the lineup of recently added projects on my stuff. It's all crunching away according to whatever priority BOINC thinks is right with all the other stuff like QMC, YOYO, WCG, SETI etc... no complaints so far.... LOL!



PS: That power outage had a Spinhenge task go 5 hours and 326% before I noticed it too! ABORT!! LOL!
Edited by Tex1954 - 6/1/11 at 11:26am
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i got 40k in back dated work for climateprediction today. Seems as if they have been doing hardware and database updates past couple weeks. I guess we need to be looking forward to some new work in the near future.
    
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I never was able to get a WU from Climate Prediction, so have no idea. Are they generally long tasks? CPU/GPU/ both?

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oh lord. they are anywhere from 100-700hr tasks depending on cpu power. Sorry tex, they are cpu only as of yet.
    
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WOW!! Long tasks... hmmm... that brings a general thought to mind about multi task control...

One thing I have been looking into is a method to assign projects to only one particular CPU... sort of a managed CPU affinity thing. Also, would like to do the same with my GPU's... so for instance, GPUGrid could only run on GPU D0 etc...

So far, I've read some stuff about an app_info.xml thing but can't find it anywhere on my system nor any recent data on how to use it. Still looking around for things like that, maybe manually change the task.xml file or something.

Anyway, was near going to the BOINC website and asking the forum there if I can't find any particulars...

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and there is a lot of uploading data when it comes to climate. It sends data 3x maybe 4x during the process of a wu.
    
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Couldn't you run multiple instances of BOINC with each affinity set to a particular cpu? Then control the settings in each instance? Worth a try.
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Multiple instances of BOINC is a possible option. Haven't really tested it yet, but I can pop up two BOINC managers... Hmmm.... That is a good idea though...

If it can be done without creating a big mess with too many separate installs with separate data/program directories, it would pretty much solve 2 of my biggest problems... and I could live without a couple of smaller options I would like to have...

Might have to play with some other internal variables or something... I think it still uses my Users/Owner/Apps... directory for some things... have to check...

Hmmmm, think I may tinker with that and see what I can do. It might be I have to install it separately under two different users or something...

Thanks for the idea!!! Maybe I can make it do what I want that way! Maybe!!!

I'll report back any results...



UPDATE 1: (95% of info from BOINC FAQ service and forums)

Short answer is BOINC.EXE will not allow multiple instances of itself to run and the .msi installer won't install two copies and specifically tests for that. Neither will it run under different users because it's a service at heart and again can't allow itself to be duplicated. However, it can be "forced" to run separately in a VM environment... I did try to run it from a command window, it loaded... didn't do a thing... couldn't talk to it or make it do anything... close command window and it closed too.

I run LINUX as well... possibly I can run LINUX in a VM under Windows or visa-versa... so checking into that now.

UPDATE 2:

Wow! Found out quickly that VM would work for CPU tasks, but NOT work for GPU tasks due to video driver conflict. CUDA x.x divers require separate and exclusive use of the cards and there is no way to disconnect one or the other card in a multi-card system in the software... (from several forums)

Bottom line is, for GPU tasks, seems I will be limited... the App_Info.xml and/or cc_config.xml are possibly my only options. BOINC itself is a rather separate entity made "generally" to run distributed tasks within it's API/wrapper specifications. It has very little control over the app itself and is structured according to the specific machine details only generally. It is basically a resource and application monitor at the CPU/GPU level, but has little inherent specific control; X CPU's equals X CPU projects, X GPU's equals X GPU projects...

Conclusion:
If I can't run multiple instances, if I can't figure out a way to make the specific task run on only one GPU, the only thing I "can" do is split my cheapo GPU's between two systems. Rather than have one system with pair of CUDA 2.0 GPU's and the other cheapo system with a pair of CUDA 1.1 GPU's, I can put one CUDA 1.1 GPU and one CUDA 2.0 GPU in each of two systems.

GPUGRID can't run on a CUDA 1.1 GPU so would automatically only use the CUDA 2.0 GPU... I think... Gosh, what an asymetric mess that would be... and BOINC would screw it up because it would assign a CUDA 1.1 capable task to the CUDA 2.0 GPU by default... so there again, no control. Hmmm... brainstorming says only answer would be dedicate a computer to one project only... and I don't like doing that either... poopoo kaakaa doodoo!

It was a good exercise, I learned a lot. Good idea... but BOINC won't cooperate... LOL!

Thanks!



NOTE: I am not a genius when it comes to Windows (or anything else for that matter!) and maybe I have misinterpreted some specifics, but this is the gist of what I discovered. Obviously I don't want to break my machine since it works perfectly as is, so didn't test much... But, I am going to ask the BOINC forum about this and will post any helpful links to that later. Perhaps there is an answer there I can't see...
Edited by Tex1954 - 6/1/11 at 10:39pm
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