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^^^ See with my 4850x2 I can clock both cores up to whatever I want (currently 777) and If I push MW or Collatz on it then it runs on WU on each core, at full speed. The only problems I have is with DNETC, because it like to use both cores on the same WU at the same time, and sometimes one of the cores will stop processing. SO usually I just run Collatz and MW since they work the best, and do DNetc on my 5xxx gpus
That's really strange, I find that DNETC maxes both cores out to 100% usage really well and generates loads of points. Weird how similar setups behave so differently!
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That's really strange, I find that DNETC maxes both cores out to 100% usage really well and generates loads of points. Weird how similar setups behave so differently!
Mine seems to do that 2, but if I do random spot checks on it, a lot of times I will see that one core is not being used at all!!

Weird I know... oh well... plenty of projects works great on that card so I switch it up!


Also, what kind of cooling do you guys have on your 48X0x2 cards?? I got rid of the stock cooler last nighto n mine, and installed 2 Zalman VF900s on it... they fit perefctly and I dropped like 10C off my load temps (depending on the project, collatz seems to be like 20C!) and the noise level has been cut down by at least 75%... I cannot hear the card over my other case fans which is awesome!

Anyways, highly reccommend that cooler for anyone looking for something to quite/cool those beastly cards!
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I've got an Accelero Xtreme, but it's not working as well as it should be. Need to have a proper look at it, but I'm no expert and have no idea what I'm going to be looking for...
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I've got an Accelero Xtreme, but it's not working as well as it should be. Need to have a proper look at it, but I'm no expert and have no idea what I'm going to be looking for...
Well you may try to remove it, and redo the TIM with some MX3.

Also, with any cooler that is not exhausting the hot air out the back of the case, when the side panel is on all that heat just hangs around the case and will heat up everything else. May try a blowhole on your case panel flipped to exhaust the hot air instead of blowing air in.
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As far as I understand it, the secondary core is only clocked up to the maximum when playing a game that supports crossfire in fullscreen mode. Then the core kicks in at full clock and memory speed. Since BOINC does not emulate this scenario, you're stuck at 507Mhz on the secondary core unless you play around with it.
Did you give gputool a go? It allows you to set the 2D and 3D clock/mem speeds independantly

Download and install GPUTOOL (HERE).

Then start it up and go to the "Fan Control" tab and set the fan control option to "hardware" and at the bottom set the "mode" to "Fixed".

Then you'll see in the grid area a line with2 dark points on it - drag the first/left point all the way to the bottom left (around 10C and 0%) and then drag the second/right point across the top to 60C and then down to 80%.

This will make the fan come on 100% above 60C and then scale down the fan's speed to 80% just under 60C and from there it'll scale down the fan's speed further as the card's temp drops further. Play around with it and you should find a good compromise between temps and fan noise.

Then go back to the "Clocks" tab.

Now before you adjust the clocks, at the very top you'll see a drop down list that lists your GPU. If you have a card that has 2 GPU's then that drop down list will list both of them. Select the first card.

Just under where it lists the tab names, you'll see a second drop down list that lists your card's 2D/3D levels. Select the first option (most likely "2D Clocks") and then under the drop down box, set the sliders to the OC you want to run in 2D and then click apply.

Then go back to the second drop down list and select your card's next 2D/3D level (most likly "3D Clocks") and again set the sliders to the OC you want to run and then click apply.

Keep repeating until you have set the speeds you want for each of your card's levels. And then in the very top drop down list again, select your next GPU and repeat.

If you wanted to ensure that your card operates at the speed you want in BOINC, try settings all of the 2D/3D levels for both GPU's listed in the very top drop down list to the speed you want.

750/900 are stock speeds for a single 4870 so they should be a good starting point.

With that all sorted and all speeds set in GPUTOOL for your card's 2D/3D levels, then start up Open Hardware Monitor (HERE if you don't have it) and check the speeds of your GPUs and also check the temps.

Hope that works for you
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Also, with any cooler that is not exhausting the hot air out the back of the case, when the side panel is on all that heat just hangs around the case and will heat up everything else. May try a blowhole on your case panel flipped to exhaust the hot air instead of blowing air in.
Very true. I originally upgraded my fans to 120mm items (top, front, rear and side panel - 4 fans in total) and although they could keep temps under control and the PC stable during the normal OC benchmarks, they just couldn't remove all the heat when I started running BOINC and the PC started to crash.

I'm going to guess that this is because the normal OC benchmarks use either the CPU or GPU and not both at the same time and not both at 100% load.

To keep temps in check, I removed the side panel, and then made sure each of the three 120mm fans left (top, front and rear) are blowing into the case - and with the side panel off all the air then blows straight out.

This keeps mainboard temps to around 10C above ambient when GPU and CPU are both under 100% load and keeps the PC stable - I've pretty much run it 24/7 for the past 3 days
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post #167 of 658
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Very true. I originally upgraded my fans to 120mm items (top, front, rear and side panel - 4 fans in total) and although they could keep temps under control and the PC stable during the normal OC benchmarks, they just couldn't remove all the heat when I started running BOINC and the PC started to crash.

I'm going to guess that this is because the normal OC benchmarks use either the CPU or GPU and not both at the same time and not both at 100% load.

To keep temps in check, I removed the side panel, and then made sure each of the three 120mm fans left (top, front and rear) are blowing into the case - and with the side panel off all the air then blows straight out.

This keeps mainboard temps to around 10C above ambient when GPU and CPU are both under 100% load and keeps the PC stable - I've pretty much run it 24/7 for the past 3 days
wait your saying leave the side panel off.. ?

On my HAF 932, which ive now traded my AMD panel for the standard one that allows 4 120mm fans, I have the bottom front back and side fans blowing in and the top fans blowing out....

Now with what you said in an earlier post, ive now decided to switch the side panel flow to out and pull the hot air away from the 4870x2s which both have accelero cooling...

I am getting to temps of maybe 60ish highest ever to 70 on one or the other card....

Now my NB which ive talked about i believe in this thread, is hitting like 67 every once in a while but mostly sits at 60,,, i will be pulling everything apart this weekend to check paste and make sure i dont have the famed crosshair IV cooling issue.

But that said, i will say that running these programs 24/7 has shown me what shortcomings my rig has.. and they will be rectified and,,,,,

Im going to kick some booty once im back up and running on sunday right in time for bonker time guys

Its on like donkey kong guys and like i said im putting my game face on and getting ready for GO TIME
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Now with what you said in an earlier post, ive now decided to switch the side panel flow to out and pull the hot air away from the 4870x2s which both have accelero cooling...

I am getting to temps of maybe 60ish highest ever to 70 on one or the other card....
kind of similar, but the side panel fan will not be able to extract the air as well as having the side removed completely

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Now my NB which ive talked about i believe in this thread, is hitting like 67 every once in a while but mostly sits at 60,,, i will be pulling everything apart this weekend to check paste and make sure i dont have the famed crosshair IV cooling issue.
My NB is lucky to hit 45c with the side panel off. But my CPU is watercooled, so I don't have the heat from the CPU blowing around. I also have the rear 120mm fan blowing straight in and it pretty much blows directly over the heatsinks covering the regs and nb.

When the side panel was on, as soon as the GPU's hit 100% the temps inside the cases skyrocketed - basically the card's temps ran around 15C hotter then they do now, and the NB ran about 10C hotter.

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But that said, i will say that running these programs 24/7 has shown me what shortcomings my rig has.. and they will be rectified and,,,,,
True that. I always thought my rig was stable if it could pass an hour of OCCT:CPU and 3D mark without crashing. BOINC running 100% on the CPU and 100% on the GPU proved that theory wrong lol.

I'll eventually watercool everything in the PC that emits heat and then I will be able to put the side panel on and it should be fine
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kind of similar, but the side panel fan will not be able to extract the air as well as having the side removed completely
I dont know about that, do you know what fans im running

ive got 3 kaze 3000rpm scythe fans in the door... i think they can flow or maybe im wrong, either way im going to try flipping them then if i dont see a good change ill take your advice...

i just like having the door on.. im really sure my daughter would love to touch daddys fans and vid cards and other cool stuff in his big fancy comp

btw good numbers you are putting up but.. dont think your going to catch me when i go down for a day or two to work on my comp this weekend..

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I dont know about that, do you know what fans im running

ive got 3 kaze 3000rpm scythe fans in the door... i think they can flow or maybe im wrong, either way im going to try flipping them then if i dont see a good change ill take your advice...
If you have 3 decent fans in the side panel, they they'll prolly be able to move most of the hot air out - but it all depends on the flow in from the other fans and the flow out through them.

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i just like having the door on.. im really sure my daughter would love to touch daddys fans and vid cards and other cool stuff in his big fancy comp
Yeah, good point. I'm kind of lucky that I have a separate PC room that is always locked from little hands. But if it wasn't locked I'd have to find other ways at keep the PC cool.

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btw good numbers you are putting up but.. dont think your going to catch me when i go down for a day or two to work on my comp this weekend..

hahaha, darn, you got me

Cheers man, I wish I could do more to help out (and catch you guys ), but I'm maxing out the hardware I have so around 100K is all I'll be at until I can find some 4870's going cheap.

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ViewSonic VX922 19" LCD Diamond Digital Black Antec True Power 750w Antec LanBoy Air Red 
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