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Updated.

Cheers to the price war.

The Mobile Chip article was included, almost exclusively for the quote seen on the first page [of the thread]. If this trickling effect can be accepted as true, one can infer that the engineers at AMD, those working on the Mobile chips, have/had a hand in the low wattage AM2 processors.
Also, maybe we can expect this trickle to reach Deerhound and Greyhound, which just may give us some nice 4 core processors under a 100w TDP, maybe under 80w.
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Updated once more. The most prominent news is that of the pricing and the 1mb L2 chip ing.
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hey is there a comprehensince guide somewhere that tells you how ot OC your am2 cpu? i am noob with oc stuff.
any help will be appreciated. thanks

is it ok to replace the stock heatsink/fan that came with my cpu with a zalman cnps9500-am2 ?
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Replacing the stock cooler with an aftermarket cooler, especially ones from companies with a good reputation like Zalman, will keep your CPU cooler giving you more headroom for OCing. Just don't forget to couple that with some Artic Silver 5!
    
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I recently have decided to purchase a new gaming system. I have a reasonably budget and definately am looking at AM2 of being my chip of choice. I am considering the M2N-SLI-Deluxe motherboard so eventually I could run 2x7950GX2 cards at 16x.

My question for you guys is what AM2 chip seems to be the one to go with? I have read about issues concerning the memory clock speeds being lower with the 4200+, 4400+ chips and that was what I was considering. Would I be worth while saving a few bucks and going with the 4000+ system? Now If i were to get a 4400+ chip and overclock it to similar 4600+ then the memory frequency wouldn't matter because the multiplier would work out properly.

What do you guys think? Anyone played around with these guys yet? I would like to get my new system in the next week.


Any input would be appreciated.


Thanks,

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I think somebody /cough\\ Barbie /cough\\ should wait for the AM2 optys to launch.. I believe the launch date was the 17th of this month?

I'm going to have to wait til mid august to decide on what platform to buy. Performance is what I want. I'm no fanboy..
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Originally Posted by EasytouchBarBie
I recently have decided to purchase a new gaming system. I have a reasonably budget and definately am looking at AM2 of being my chip of choice. I am considering the M2N-SLI-Deluxe motherboard so eventually I could run 2x7950GX2 cards at 16x.

My question for you guys is what AM2 chip seems to be the one to go with? I have read about issues concerning the memory clock speeds being lower with the 4200+, 4400+ chips and that was what I was considering. Would I be worth while saving a few bucks and going with the 4000+ system? Now If i were to get a 4400+ chip and overclock it to similar 4600+ then the memory frequency wouldn't matter because the multiplier would work out properly.
Currently, the Asus M2N32 SLi Deluxe is the best solution that uses NF590 SLi chipset. Asus is arguably the best maker of the motherboards on the market, if one follows the sheer amount of them in enthusiast possession. DFI, Abit, and Gigabyte are great as well, but currently, Asus just takes the cake. The M2N32 features the heatpipe system, which is great not only for the noiselessness, but also for the fact that it can't really fail like a chipset fan. (This used to be quite a problem with the 939 A8N Deluxe, and since then, beginning with the A8N Premium, all of Asus' enthusiast motherboards have had heatpipe solutions.) It also features 8-phase power regulation, something which is desirable in highly, or even moderately overclocked systems. To top it off, AM2 (From a motherboard aspect) is almost identical to 939, meaning the M2N32 is pretty much a maturing of the 939 counterparts, as opposed to a completely new generation riddled with bugs.

Couple that with the fact that AMD used the M2N32 for its enthusiast review systems, the systems that would yield the highest[performance numbers for AMD.

The Foxconn C51XEM2AA (I do not remember that from memory.) is a close second, but it does feature less mature BIOS, (This is pretty much Foxconn’s first “premium class” motherboard.), and it is equipped with the dreaded chipset fan. You may find it for a few bucks less than the Asus, but then, the Asus is still the more “mature” product.
The Gigabyte GA-M9SLI-S5 (I actually remembered that one.) is also similar, almost identical really, but I still recommend the Asus, mostly because I feel Asus has better BIOS. It is also slightly cheaper, but the price difference is minimal.

Go with the Asus.

(If you are a hard-core overclocker, or want to become one, it may help to wait for the DFI LanParty UT nF590 SLI-M2R/G, which will probably be the board to have. It is the first consumer motherboard to support "DPWM," or digital voltage control. This is due to become a set feature in the future, and it is supposed to be loads better than any other viable voltage control. It also is a DFI, meaning it will probably be the most tweak-able AM2 motherboard out, which then implies that it will hold pretty much all the AM2 (SLI) performance crowns.)

I cannot be 100% certain, but I am strongly under the impression that you may not have to do anything, since you will be buying DDR2 800/PC2 6400 or greater, (The M2N32 and any other 590 chipset requires the memory to run at that speed.), you will not be experiencing this error at all.

In other words, coupled with the M2N32 and DDR2 800 memory, you will probably not encounter any frequency/multiplier issue at all, and if you do, the fix is painless (All that you are required to do is bump up the FSB to 200 Mhz, disable any divider (That is, set it to 1:1.), and set the multiplier to its highest possible value. All these steps are clear enough in the BIOS, and can be done by anyone with 5 minutes time, and basic keyboard skills.
(If you are a moderately experienced overclocker, you know the drill.)

That being said, feel free to buy any AM2 CPU without worry for the bug, so long as you buy DDR2 800 memory.

As for the DDR2 800 memory, the following models have a good history with this motherboard (Some memory modules just do not work with the M2N32, so pay attention if you do not feel like returning modules after they fail to POST.):
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 (XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 4-4-4-12)
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400Pro (XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 5-5-5-12)
Mushkin 996523 (eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 4-4-3-10)

If you want to be 100% certain that the models work, use these:
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C3 (XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 3-4-3-9 w/ EPP)

Hope that helps.

As for updates to the thread, I have not done so in a long time. I have tons of links stored up, and will update shortly.
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Whats uP People....
Im am posting hoping to find others in our small community of 27000 that have my cpu

AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 Windsor 2.8GHz

If So I would Like to know what OC you have done if any...
I was reading that the most we can get out of it is 3 Ghz
So hoping that if anyone out there has it at that speed.. you could help me in
achive the same speed
Not to mention that i would like to know the rest of your specs So I can compare........
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Nice system bro.Haven't had the chance to OC yet but when i do,I'll let you know my specs.
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hey guys i have recently switched to am2 dispite the conroes superior performance but anyways ive been ocing the system in my specs

the ram has been performing very well imo, it wont do 1t past like 420 or so but right now i am running it at 451 with 4-4-4-7 2t and it is performing flawlessly (still havnt pushed it to the limit yet)

the cpu i have right now x2 3800 normal watt is doing pretty well i guess (dont have much to compare it to) but its topped out right now at 2.7

the mobo though has been giving me some seriouse grief partly due to my lack of knowledge of much of the extra parameters that arent on the nf4 dfi boards (ill try to get some screenies of the bios later), the board has more options then ive ever scene in a bios before but trying to figure out the best combination of them has been a real pain

one thing thats weird with this guy is i never get a bsod or a reboot , it either stops in bios saying i need to change my cpu clock or it will freeze up during variouse points in loading windows but when it post all the way through its 100% stable

ive been burning cds and folding all after noon with no issues what so ever

just thought i would throw this out there
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