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www.Monarchcomputer.com is ready.

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ory_Code=AM2MB
^^Motherboard Section made, they are ready for it's official release^^

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...egory_Code=AM2
^^Ready to sell??^^
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Whoa, they updated the site, looks like you can order the motherboards now!
I recommend you use CODE tags around your quotes.
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http://www.guru3d.com/article/processor/348/2/

Nforce 590/ FX62/ X24000+ (AM2) with benchmarks
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I am building a rig for my mom (and later for myself), and I have bought all of the parts except for the mobo and the cpu.

Relating to this article, my question is:
Will the "new" 65nm/45nm chips fit on a 90nm mobo if I buy now? Or will I have to upgrade again for each process?

Will the current AM2 mobo take the "new" DDR3 ram when it is available, as well as the current DDR2? I read an Anandtech article that said the new socket F series will support both formats and I was wondering if the AM2 will support both as well. I've already bought DDR2 and just crossed my fingers that the future DDR3 will go in when its time to upgrade.

I hope I didn't jump the gun. Her current systems needs to be updated ASAP, but she was willing to wait to get the most future-proof items...ie, mobo, proc., and RAM.

I'm trying to future proof as much as possible....she wants me to go "all out" so she won't "need" an upgrade for awhile. I can't get the "best" of everything...but I can get close.

So......should I wait for 65nm or DDR3......or just buy now?

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MSI K9N Platinum for MoBo
AMD X2 AM2 4000+ for CPU

Any CONSTRUCTIVE input would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Danny
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Originally Posted by MyOverclockName
I am building a rig for my mom (and later for myself), and I have bought all of the parts except for the mobo and the cpu.

Relating to this article, my question is:
Will the "new" 65nm/45nm chips fit on a 90nm mobo if I buy now? Or will I have to upgrade again for each process?

Will the current AM2 mobo take the "new" DDR3 ram when it is available, as well as the current DDR2? I read an Anandtech article that said the new socket F series will support both formats and I was wondering if the AM2 will support both as well. I've already bought DDR2 and just crossed my fingers that the future DDR3 will go in when its time to upgrade.

Any CONSTRUCTIVE input would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Danny
Danny, I suggest the following:

If you must upgrade now, do so without hesitation. Reading the following:
Quote:
Probably the most attractive reason to buy an AM2 system is AMD's strategy to stay with a certain socket for some time to enable simple processor upgrades and allow users to "drop in" a newer generation CPU down the road.
quoted from this article, you will be able to drop in a 65nm AMD chip when they are released. Whether or not DDR3 will be supported is a different story. Chances are, DDR3 will use the same pin configuration as DDR2 (Current speculation), and with the integrated memory controller of AMD, a new processor (their 65nm versions) will be needed to support DDR3. In other words, if you buy an AM2 motherboard now, you will probably not need to upgrade it for a long time.

If you can wait, take a look ate the Official Conroe link in my signature. Conroe is looking like a monster, but you must look at it with a grain of salt. If DDR3 comes out, Intel will need a whole new motherboard, and *maybe* new CPUs to support it. Also, as of today, no one knows how well AMD's K8L (65nm) processors will perform.

Your straight answer is:
If you need to upgrade now, do it. All you will need is DDR3 memory and a new Processor to support DDR3. K8L might beat out Conroe and support DDR3 at the same time.

If you can afford to wait, wait for Conroe. It will be the best processor out until K8L, which may or may not beat it. However, you will need DDR3, a new motherboard, and possibly a new processor to support DDR3.
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Quote:
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Danny, I suggest the following:

If you must upgrade now, do so without hesitation. Reading the following:
quoted from this article, you will be able to drop in a 65nm AMD chip when they are released. Whether or not DDR3 will be supported is a different story. Chances are, DDR3 will use the same pin configuration as DDR2 (Current speculation), and with the integrated memory controller of AMD, a new processor (their 65nm versions) will be needed to support DDR3. In other words, if you buy an AM2 motherboard now, you will probably not need to upgrade it for a long time.

If you can wait, take a look ate the Official Conroe link in my signature. Conroe is looking like a monster, but you must look at it with a grain of salt. If DDR3 comes out, Intel will need a whole new motherboard, and *maybe* new CPUs to support it. Also, as of today, no one knows how well AMD's K8L (65nm) processors will perform.

Your straight answer is:
If you need to upgrade now, do it. All you will need is DDR3 memory and a new Processor to support DDR3. K8L might beat out Conroe and support DDR3 at the same time.

If you can afford to wait, wait for Conroe. It will be the best processor out until K8L, which may or may not beat it. However, you will need DDR3, a new motherboard, and possibly a new processor to support DDR3.
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A VERY good answer, im with him. If you want more imput for you create a new thread, then you will get more imput
    
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AM2 CPU'S AND MOBO'S @ overclockers.co.uk for us UK guys!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal..._Athlon64.html
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Has anyone seen any AM2 cpus at Newegg? As of right now they got 2 the 3800+ and some Sempron. I really want 4000+ X2. Has anyone seen the 65w version out or does that come out later? I really want to try and OC one of them.
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Newegg Link added.
OC.co.uk link added.
Fixed review link issues.

I just noticed something. The overclocking was done with the normal CPUs, the processors without Energy Efficiency. I wonder how the Energy Efficient cores fare.
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LOWER POWER CONSUMPTION:
Athlon 64 X2 processors now have a new, lower maximum power specification of 89 watts (down from 110) for socket AM2. Standard single core Athlon 64 processors also have a lower max power specification - 62 watts (down from 89). Semprons also have a 62 watt maximum specification. Also, as previously announced, AMD is offering a line of Energy Efficient processors available in Socket AM2 for the desktop that have maximum wattage specifications of 65 watts and 35 watts. These CPUs will retail for a slight premium. AMD's "Energy Efficient Processors" deliver the same performance with the same core frequency and cache sizes but with lower heat dissipation and power consumption. AMD's specified maximum power represents consumption under full load at the most extreme conditions.

Energy Efficient models available at 65 Watts max power:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 processors: 4800+, 4600+, 4400+, 4200+, 4000+, and 3800+

Energy Efficient models available at 35 Watts max power:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor: 3800+
AMD Athlon 64 processor: 3500+
AMD Sempron processors: 3400+, 3200+, and 3000+
I am thinking that 3800+ at 35w TDP will do at lest 2.8-2.8 on stock voltage and the OEM heatsink...
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here you go...

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/...nvents_itself/
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