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Hi. New to Watercooling. I spent a good while looking through this forum, and various websites, and I think I got the gist. I thought I'd go for:

Swiftech MCP655
Swiftech Apogee
Either Black Ice Extreme 2 or Thermochill 120.2 HE (Not sure I could fit a triple at the front of my case, heh)
Danger Den Single-Bay Reservoir (5.25)

Er, that's it I guess. What I don't know, is what tubes to get. The Swiftech site says this about the Apogee: Two sets of Nylon hose barbs are included with the device: 3/8" (10mm) and 1/2" (12mm).

It also says some things about NPSM connectors, and such. This wouldn't be a problem, except that... none of the websites I can see mention NPSM on their hoses. So I don't know which to go for.

I was looking at these: http://www.coolercases.co.uk/wc_hose.htm, or these: http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/home.php?cat=750 . Which ones will fit?

Also, will the Pump be powerful enough to support an additional GPU Block later (When I can find one that supports the X1900XT), or will I need to get a more powerful one? Thanks in advance, as always

These are probably really obvious, but hey, I managed to short my A8N32-SLI, and now it thinks it's a 6100. No amount of psychiatry will clear those scars. for the motherboard, not me. I'm fine.

Yeah. I'm gonna go now.
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Hi. New to Watercooling. I spent a good while looking through this forum, and various websites, and I think I got the gist. I thought I'd go for:

Swiftech MCP655
Swiftech Apogee
Either Black Ice Extreme 2 or Thermochill 120.2 HE (Not sure I could fit a triple at the front of my case, heh)
Danger Den Single-Bay Reservoir (5.25)

Er, that's it I guess. What I don't know, is what tubes to get. The Swiftech site says this about the Apogee: Two sets of Nylon hose barbs are included with the device: 3/8" (10mm) and 1/2" (12mm).

It also says some things about NPSM connectors, and such. This wouldn't be a problem, except that... none of the websites I can see mention NPSM on their hoses. So I don't know which to go for.

I was looking at these: http://www.coolercases.co.uk/wc_hose.htm, or these: http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/home.php?cat=750 . Which ones will fit?

Also, will the Pump be powerful enough to support an additional GPU Block later (When I can find one that supports the X1900XT), or will I need to get a more powerful one? Thanks in advance, as always

These are probably really obvious, but hey, I managed to short my A8N32-SLI, and now it thinks it's a 6100. No amount of psychiatry will clear those scars. for the motherboard, not me. I'm fine.

Yeah. I'm gonna go now.

Go for 1/2"ID or 7/16"ID. That pump is the best there is right now, a GPU will be fine. Look into using a 77 Pontiac Bonneville Heatercore for a rad. They are alot cheaper then the Black Ice or the Thermochill.
    
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Okay, so either 1/2" or 7/16" will work? Thanks, I'll order some of that! cheers.
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Yes, you're definetly going to want to get 1/2", more flow than 3/8". That pump is very nice, and can easily support another waterblock down the road. You can get a heatercore rad if you like, but if you want to get a thermochill or blackice. I would recommend getting a Thermochill PA160, small and works very well. For the tubing get 1/2" ID tygon. Also, before get an X1900XT you reall should get a new PSU.
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Small is good, and important. But I don't want to sacrifice quality.

Oh, and believe it or not, the damn PSU works! Everyone does say, 'Get a new PSU', but... no failures yet. It says '+12V' 22A - but I did a stress test, and it drew 27.5A with no shut down.

Not only that, but the ATI Auto-Overclock (CCC) Program took it to 689 Core Speed

Heh, I know I really -should- get a new PSU... but until it starts clicking and shutting down, we'll just have to see.

But back to Water Cooling, I might just have enough room for a double-rad at the front, but I can always mount it on the back using a fan adaptor. Failing that, I can drill a hole in the top of my case (which will be very difficult). A small one will be useful. I'll look into your recommendation. Any others?
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My rad is in the front. Just put it where it fits.
    
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Cool. Thx. And will this be enough to support a GPU block later, or will I need to upgade the pump or CPU Block?

Edit: Just read the above properly. Yes, it will support a GPU Block. Ignore. Thanks =P
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