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post #11 of 25
I don't mean to hijack your thread here (some potentially useful cleaning info in there smile.gif) but I'm not convinced that it's actually algae. Are you sure the glycol and other components in your fluid didn't just precipitate out in your cpu block? The micro channels seem to be pretty effective at removing the solid components of dyes from solution from what I've seen.
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post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by nickbaldwin86;12602881 
That is great or you could have just taken the proper measures from the beginning and not have to worry about the bacterial algae

Originally (as a newbie) I thought the glycol in the cooling fluid would prevent anything growing but that was not the case.

Bacteria are persistent, they will grow anywhere given enough time, even in my current system the tubing is starting to turn green (after 8 months and 1 water change at 4 months.) I am using distilled water, petra tech additive and a silver coil and yes the kit was prepped properly before installation with diluted bleach/ and or boiling water. I think that cheap tubing may be at fault as I have Primochill tubing in the loop as well and that is remaining clear.

Davs, the dye I was using was blue, but the crap in the block and tubing was green, the sludge in the bay reservoir was cloudy white. I suspect it was algae as I used to have a fishtank like myrandomspaces and the gunk was pretty similar to the stuff in there.

Of course prevention is better than cure guys (and gals). Proper preparation prevents hassle later on!
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Killing with bleach.

The bottle of bleach suggests a 15ml bleach to 5 litres of water to whiten clothing. I decided to use a ratio of 20 parts water: 1 part bleach (e.g. 2 litres of water to 100 mls of bleach) in a large plastic box. The water solution turns opaque white.

In the interest of testing an alternative method I also used bleach on the radiators.

I threw the radiator in the solution with all the fittings, reservoir, and pump top and pump 'centrifuge' and left them overnight (over 12 hours.) (Electric components of course should not be put into the water.) This should kill any bacteria/ algae that are in the components.

I know this thread is old, so sorry for the necro.

A small note on the use of Bleach. Its bacteria killing effects has about five minutes of life. Once chlorine bonds with bacteria (or kills it) it becomes toxic and inert (in the sense that it doesn't kill anymore). The solution keeps whitening, but its disinfectant power actually stops within about five minutes from contact with water (yes water).

So there’s no need to actually let it sit all night. If you want to kill the algae, do two or three quick five minute soaks in a fresh water/bleach mixture. Adding more bleach doesn't help that much in disinfecting either, except raising the discolouring effects.

As for using it safely with WC kits, I have no clue.
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post #14 of 25
Bleach is actually a bad idea for cleaning copper as the two substances will chemically react and cause oxidation. Then once the surface of the metal is degraded or pitted, that leaves more surface area and crevices where algae etc. can take hold.

I don't think the effect is quite as bad with aluminum, but as someone else mentioned previously, acetic acid (white vinegar) is better.
Edited by threephi - 4/24/11 at 10:41am
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Glycol is for corrosion.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by threephi;13254585 
Bleach is actually a bad idea for cleaning copper as the two substances will chemically react and cause oxidation. Then once the surface of the metal is degraded or pitted, that leaves more surface area and crevices where algae etc. can take hold.

I don't think the effect is quite as bad with aluminum, but as someone else mentioned previously, acetic acid (white vinegar) is better.

And then there are bacteria that are resistant to bleach, and see acetic acid as just another food source, along with a number of other acetates, formaldehyde, and other volatile organics.eek.gif
Usually looks like white sludge with a layer of pink slime covering it.

Fun stuff to try to get rid of in HVAC condensate drain pans and cooling towers, I'd hate to have to deal with it in my water cooling system...
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post #17 of 25
If you were using antifreeze I doubt it was algae, it was probably the color particulates in the antifreeze, possible something in the other additives and the plastictizers in the tubing. Good cleaning, if you think is an algae in the radiator mix 1 tablespoon of bleach to one gallon of water, let it sit for 5 minutes and rinse good. I would stay away from putting it in the acrylic reservoir even at this low concentration.
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post #18 of 25
I'm bumping this thread since I had also though that ethylene glycol would act as a biocide. I was wrong. I just had to change out all of my tubing since it had a green tint. I was using feser protector. Thankfully I didn't wait too long so I doubt that my blocks are all that bad. I did flush out my rads pretty well though.
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necro: i have some questions, that fit in this thread, but if its not cool ill post a new thread

questions:

1) when you have algae, how does it start -- does it start on the tubing or the rad or the res?
2) my tubes are getting a slightly greensih/yellowish tint (i confess i hadnt dusted it for a while now ~6months) and i want to know if its just the tubing becoming old
3) thing is, although my tubes are a weirdish color, the res is perfectly transparent, the water is as blue as it was when i put it in and when i look in the cpu (its an acetal plated block) block, i see the same pure blue and no clogs.
4) if potentially i put alcohol in the loop, what would be acceptable solutions (10%, 40%, 100%) so as not to harm the parts?

specs: ek supreme hf block, 240 ek rad, ek-dcp4.0 pump, and the ugly round 150ish ml res ... also added is the ek blue water thingy added to twice distilled water i got from a chemist buddy
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post #20 of 25
I didn't have any growth at all on my res. Just on the tubing and a little in the endcaps of my res. The res was very clear.

I really think that it had something to do with the tubing being a little more porus than the acrylic on the res but thats a wild guess.
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