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Yea, that n00b is me. i need help overclocking my 64 3000+. i have an asus A8V-E Deluxe, and i do have AI Nos (whatever that is) turned onto 5%, making my clock speed 1890, instead of 1800. i would like to learn how to do this myself without an automatic setting. i want to learn how to do it manually. any help here would be nice. i got this from another user:

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well for both of you who are looking for how to OC it is best done via the BIOS. senshikaze you should probably start your own thread because as each of you start you'll run into different circumstances and questions and it would be best to keep things separated.

but here's a basic starter.

to OC you raise the htt frequency. your cpu speed is determined by htt frequency x cpu multiplier so 3000+ has a 9x multi so 9x200 = 1.8Ghz. the htt also determines your RAM frequency but it is multiplied by 2 so 200 x 2 = 400 or DDR400. your hyper transport frequency is also dependant on the htt frequency by default the multi is 5x so 5x200=1000

alright, so you need to find what each component can handle first. so in the bios you'll need to first find what your mobo can do. underclock your cpu by changing your multi to 6 or 7 and set your ram on a dividor of 100 or 200 depending on what your bios calls them. then change the htt multi to 3x and start increasing your htt by about 10mhz at a time until your computer can't boot windows anymore. (if you get past 333 then you'll have to lower your htt multi again) this is your max mobo htt frequency.

now, put your cpu multi back up at 9x and start back at a htt of 200... increase by about 10mhz until your cpu is not prime95 stable for 5 min. once it is not stable lower the frequency until it is. this is your max cpu speed. you can raise your vcore to about 1.55 or so, but watch temps.

once you know what your cpu can do then it's time to find your memory max. underclock your cpu again by setting the multi down. and go into the memory settings. you may have to give it a bit more juice, loosen timings a bit but increase htt again and boot to memtest. once your memory cannot pass memtest it's time to increase voltage, loosen timings or lower frequency.

once you've found the max of all then you'll have an idea how to put it all together. keep in mind that you don't want to run the max all the time but running at 90-95% of the max should be ok as long as you can get your system stable. stable for ram means passing memtest about 20 times and the system being about 12 hours prime stable.

hope this helps.
so if you could add to that, or explain some of the things in there, it would be great. thanks alot.
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Here are some links to get you started.
The FSB or Front Side Bus is not used in these MBs (939s) but refered to HTT.
http://www.overclock.net/overclock.p...king-guide.htm

A simular MB by Asus
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/38169-...roduction.html
    
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thank you.
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yeah AI Nos just turns up your frequency similar to overclocking. Software programs like it usyally up by percentages which is usually fine for small OC's but when you are talking bigger ones can be dangerous as the program does not always set memory and voltages correctly. the main problem though is the program has no way of testing for stability. that is why it is always best to oc manually so you can test as you go.
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cool thanks. i actually have ai overclock set at 5%, giving me about 90mhz, but when i leave school(^^) i will overclock. all the help i can get would be great. how do youi find out the memory speeds? and gpu freq? and everything? i am very new to this.
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old school into to overclocking:
http://www.overclockersclub.com/overclockingfaq.php

basically the same thing I first posted:
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/31782-...limits-my.html

thread on venice core overclocking:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=61309

anandtech article on overclocking:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2548

memory timing:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-memor...html#post87996
http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...707/index.html

that should keep you going for a while. read as much as you can and do a little extra research on your own. stickies are a good place to look
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thanks. though i would like it if someone with an ASUS A8V-E or close to it, would kinda give me a step by step. all of the posts use different termsthan what is in my BIOS, so i have no idea what the hell to do. thanks to anyone who can help!
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well I have an Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe board so the bios should be similar so I can still help you if you have specific questions
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okay, i have stock settings. what do i do know?
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first of all you must make sure yiou have something monitoring your temperatur of the CPU, it most probably wont be very accurate but it is the guide we have to use, keep the cpu as cool as possible, the more volts you use in the cpu(Vcore) will make the cpu run hotter which is the problem with any overclock, heat is the enemy. with that cpu you should be able to go a very long way to the point of maybe 800mhz over depending again on your temperatures under load. You will have to put your ram on a divider which is an artificial maximum speed for it, it will just slow it down so it doesnt get in the wy of a CPU overclock. That will be in the bios maybe under Dram config???(somebody help me here) There should be a setting to slow it down so maybe go for a 166mhz (333) divider to get you started, it could be set as standard at 100mhz. Post a screenshot of cpu-z with your memory speeds so we can see how it is running at stock.http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php There is a long way to go but step by step and help from others (as IM no guru) and you will have a successful and stable overclock soon enough-(with any luck)
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