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post #11 of 30
here is the first AM2 mobo and i dont see any DDR2 800...

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Originally Posted by AwDxTc
Sounds to me that AMD might be one step behind again, since they're just starting to roll out DDR2 and Intel already has received samples of both 512 and 1GB sticks of DDR3. AMD better get their ***** together if they're ever going to get me to switch over from the dark side...lol.
Because DDR2 did so much for Intel
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Originally Posted by muffin
Because DDR2 did so much for Intel
It's done more than what DDR did, from an overclocking point, best move made, to switch to DDR2. Personally, overall I coudn't stand DDR, had RAMBUS for 3-1/2 years, DDR for 6 months, DDR2 much better, DDR3 would be best.

Same can't be said for the other platform.
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AM2 suck... im waiting for DDR3 and PCI-Express II!
for now the only good thing is S1 socket...
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IMO AM2 is a "Windows Millenium Edition" of hardware to try and keep the AMD folks from losing faith and switch to the dark side because of all these sweet Intel releases....

Intel: DDR2 first
65 NM first
45 NM first (prototype)
Conroe to kill FX6X

And with intel chipsets soon supporting SLI... Intel is rolling in 2006 and probably 2007.
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IMO AM2 is a "Windows Millenium Edition" of hardware to try and keep the AMD folks from losing faith and switch to the dark side because of all these sweet Intel releases....
However, even though Intel was first to release these prototypes, they still haven't been able to fine tune their processes. The new 65nm chips still can't compare to AMD's 90nm chips in terms of TDP and performance. Another prime example is the Smithfield hack. So while Intel throws $$$ into R&D to get newer products and technology out the door, they are not fine tuning their operations. What's more important - knowing that your product is the newest or well refined? It's pretty obvious what the clear answer here is. Here is where AMD shines. While still at 90nm technology, they've been able to manufacture the chips better and scaling them to higher frequencies, so far as to even outperform chips on 65nm. So even though it takes them longer to get their newer process out, I'd trust that when it does come out, these chips will be able to perform better than any new process that Intel might have. I don't mean to be starting any kind of AMD vs. Intel debate here but objectively speaking, the numbers speak for themselves...
    
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post #17 of 30
Exactly. And little is still known about conroe, and im sure if AMD feels threatened by Intel they would do something about it.

And why say AM2 sucks? its going to have 65nm eventually, plus the processors on it will overclock better because they put out less heat.
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The move to DDR2, large caches and dual channel dram were technological advances created by Intel. They were created to deal with the legacy North Bridge memory controller's limitations (fsb latencies as well as speed) and as such are of far greater benefit to Intel than to AMD. Intel's move to the 1066MHz FSB is really necessary to utilize DDR2-533 potential and 1333 (Conroe 4MB Cache) is where DDR2 will really begin to shine as the bus bandwidth of DDR2-533 has theoretical peak of 8400 MB/s and any 800MHz FSB of today Pentium 4 just can't support such speed whilst AMD is simply not memory bandwidth limited and the support is more to keep up with the Jones's and to placate the memory manufacturers than a truly useful insertion to a needful platform.

It won't be that long until the new AMD platform architecture better known as "K9" (AMD is being very security conscious about information release) is expected to be released. The prevailing view is last quarter of 2006 to the first quarter of 2007.

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Originally Posted by u.c.i.n.e.x.
imagine this....

AM2 FX-65? or whatever is the highest proc
4 sticks of 1gb DDR800
2x 7900GTX
and a mobo to put this all together

im guessing 20k maybe more in 3dmark06?

sounds good except for the 7900's I'd take the better x1900xtxs
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because of all these sweet Intel releases....

Intel: DDR2 first
65 NM first
45 NM first (prototype)
Conroe to kill FX6X
But look at what all those "sweet releases" got them.....second place in a two man race. As in all electronics, all the marketing/design bs means nothing to an educated consumer. Let performance speak for itself and ignore the rest.
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