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Let performance speak for itself and ignore the rest.
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I'll be patiently waiting for some good products from both companies.
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The reason the stuff is not performing so well is the old architecture. The P4 is old. These new technologies will shine on the Memron.
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post #24 of 30
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Originally Posted by Omri
here is the first AM2 mobo and i dont see any DDR2 800...

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The reason behind that is that AMD AM2 processors wasn't originally designed for DDR2 800 but recent publications, reviews and FAQ's released from AMD have stated that even though the processors weren't built to support DDR2 800 they actually can support it.................... AMD at some point during design suspected that there previous ambition for DDR2 wasn't as high as the chip was capable so decided to do a "as primitive as it sounds" last minute revamp...............

I personnaly will be getting one of these I have my absolutely bottom set on that 5000+ which is said to be running at 2.6 so considering that it is DDR2 800 (the best timings I can find at the mo for 2x1Gb/2x2Gb is Crucial Ballistix, but RAM really aint my strong point so that aint gospal) I figured pushing 3Gz out of it shouldn't be to hard.

At the end of the day AMD has been providing better platforms for both single and especially dual core than intel for a while now and with the release of the AM2 and closing intels speeds of 3.0 IMO intel are gonna struggle to compete.

While we are on the subject of chips heres a good question especially for opti lovers, what will you do get a new AM2 when they are released later this year or wait for the opti quad cores next year or get both if you have the cash?

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sounds good except for the 7900's I'd take the better x1900xtxs
Nvidia G80 Dual core GPU, have what you want but I am having two of those SLI, unconfirmed speeds of 800Mhz - 1.1Ghz Core x 2.5 RAM EACH! what ever it costs its worth it!
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Originally Posted by muffin
Because DDR2 did so much for Intel
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Originally Posted by pauldovi
IMO AM2 is a "Windows Millenium Edition" of hardware to try and keep the AMD folks from losing faith and switch to the dark side because of all these sweet Intel releases....

Intel: DDR2 first
65 NM first
45 NM first (prototype)
Conroe to kill FX6X

And with intel chipsets soon supporting SLI... Intel is rolling in 2006 and probably 2007.
Intel has had most of those for awhile and look at how AMD performance benches still overpower them without to much trouble.
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No more on the 7900 vs. X1900. This thread is about AM2 DDR2800
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While we are on the subject of chips heres a good question especially for opti lovers, what will you do get a new AM2 when they are released later this year or wait for the opti quad cores next year or get both if you have the cash?
The AM2 is a new socket design that will allow some further architectural changes to K8.

I personally am awaiting K9's release for an entirely new build. The opty and 7800GTX's are enough for me until then.

I will test Intel/AMD - Nvidia/ATi at that time (My wife's brother has partial ownership in Vancouver NCIX.com so I get to testbed products) and make my decision based on actual gameplay and system performance.

It would be very nice if I can turn my two systems into one.

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Intel has had most of those for awhile and look at how AMD performance benches still overpower them without to much trouble.
Benchmarks don't mean anything if you don't have the right hardware combo. It would be pathetic to think that an FX57 with a 6600 will be faster than a....let's say P4 4.23ghz and 6800 GS, now would it?

I just looked at THG AM2 review and saw this: Support for DDR2-667 ONLY! Production processors will support faster DDR2-800 RAM.

Sorry fellas but there's no big difference between DDR2 667 and DDR 2 800. Hell! you guys are seeing that there's not difference between DDR400 and DDR2 667.

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It won't be that long until the new AMD platform architecture better known as "K9" (AMD is being very security conscious about information release) is expected to be released.
AMD cancelled K9 (for obvious reason: K9=Scooby-Doo, Rin-tintin...etc, etc....) and renamed it to K10.
Anyhow: NO K9. Woof-woof!.
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Originally Posted by Nasgul
Benchmarks don't mean anything if you don't have the right hardware combo. It would be pathetic to think that an FX57 with a 6600 will be faster than a....let's say P4 4.23ghz and 6800 GS, now would it?

I just looked at THG AM2 review and saw this: Support for DDR2-667 ONLY! Production processors will support faster DDR2-800 RAM.

Sorry fellas but there's no big difference between DDR2 667 and DDR 2 800. Hell! you guys are seeing that there's not difference between DDR400 and DDR2 667.

AMD cancelled K9 (for obvious reason: K9=Scooby-Doo, Rin-tintin...etc, etc....) and renamed it to K10.
Anyhow: NO K9. Woof-woof!.
A FX57 will beat the P4 at alot of things though, except games. And this is new news, EVERYTHING up until now and probably still now is just prototype boards. And there is difference between DDR400 and DDR2 667, bandwidth. DDR400 has better latencies, but DDR2 667 has bandwidth. Its all about balance between latency and bandwidth.

Oh yeah, Intel doesnt make 4.27ghz Pentium 4's. And also BENCHMARKS are done on identical systems, or as close as they can. For graphic cards its just the same system with the cards swapped out, for CPU's its the same system or as close as it can be.
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