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6/4/10 at 3:54am

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Here's the deal

I'm running in IDE mode, as my board has problems with AHCI!

So I was encoding a holiday vid and did it wrong, and ended up filling up my SSD. I had turned 6GB into 85GB

So I deleted the file and thought, I wounder if the trim command got through?
So I then moved a 20GB file from one of my HDDs to the SSD and the transfer speeds stayed at

So I would say "Trim does work with IDE"

Sure AHCI mode is faster!
But there seemed to be lots of speculation about Trim and IDE mode.
And I think this has proved works

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6/4/10 at 7:16am

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Yeah I have yet to read or hear about how TRIM does/doesn't work with what modes, also with *some* chipsets, IDE mode is faster, i've read

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6/4/10 at 7:49am

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Published articles that mentions this:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...&limitstart=12

Quote:

TRIM is non-specific to either SATA controller mode, and will work equally well in both IDE and AHCI-mode. Benchmark Reviews will soon publish a detailed report that illustrates the recovery levels for each SSD controller tested here.

And:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2829/15

Quote:

Under Windows 7 that means you have to use a Microsoft made IDE or AHCI driver (you can't install chipset drivers from anyone else).

(emphasis mine)

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6/4/10 at 9:49am

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Originally Posted by TheDreadedGMan

Published articles that mentions this:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...&limitstart=12

And:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2829/15

(emphasis mine)

Nice one rep+

I've lost count of how many time I've read "Make sure it's in AHCI mode or Trim wont work"!

IDK, all these Urban Myths about SSDs

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6/4/10 at 9:51am

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Yup, TRIM works in IDE mode but most people rather run in AHCI or RAID mode.

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6/4/10 at 11:57am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckieHo

Yup, TRIM works in IDE mode but most people rather run in AHCI or RAID mode.

Oh for sure. I think the NCQ must helps speeds

And I would if my board didn't have problems with AHCI and Raid

IDE Mode!

AHCI Mode!

I was running AHCI mode, and needed to do a restore image. And after the restore, the rig wouldn't boot!

So I reset the bios and had to use IDE mode

And I even tried Raid, but no go

So the controller must be dodgy

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