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I really like the design!
pricing seems reasonable as well!

but... I really don't like iTunes and the iOS... *used my sis' iPod Touch a few times*
the App Store is nice, but everything else other than smoothness of the UI, I don't like...

but being the screen with the highest resolution so far, that catches my eye...
now... even my TP2's 800x480 can't compete =(

but I guess that was expected... with many phones out now with 2.5x more pixel count than the 3GS... it's starting to be one of the main things it needed to improve on...

so, I'm not completely sold yet... simply because of the UI *which ironically it's the biggest selling point of iPxx products lol* but I just don't like...

oh that Gyroscope sounds like fun! so much cool ideas for apps!

do they still have the compass though? he never mentioned... *metal detector on my Magic was so fun =b*
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Just food for thought here, found this on the XDA forums in the Nexus One General area.

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All over the Internet bloggers have been comparing Android and iPhone 4 over what Steve Jobs presented on his keynote, but was Steve Jobs really just announcing new updates that Android had from the start and even older OS in the past?Here is the true and unbiased comparison coming from a former iPhone fanatic.

4G - HTC EVO 4G is the first phone in the US to support 4G. Ironically Apple’s new phone is code named iPhone 4, but does not support 4G. Step your game up Apple. We live in a world that demands SPEED. I doubt AT&T’s 3G speeds can compete with Sprint’s 4G.(Winner - Android)

Video Chat over 3G - I’m sorry Apple. If I wanted to video chat on my WiFi connection, I would head over to my Mac. Thanks for trying though. (Winner - Android)

Battery - 300 hours of standby is amazing. With 7 hours of 3G talk, and 40 hours of music, some nights you won’t even need to charge your phone. Only If somehow Android were to acquire Apple’s battery.(Winner - iPhone)

Customization - It’s not even close. Apple finally let users put their own background in the new iOS 4. Really Apple? My old Nokia e90 had this feature 5 years ago. Android has LIVE wallpapers, normal wallpapers, widgets, folders, and much more.(Winner - Android)

Applications (Tie) Apple’s application approval process is very slow and sometimes takes months! This causes frustrated developers, and sometimes developers even quit leaving the application on the app store with no more future updates. ALA Facebook Developer. Android is SO simple. Develop your application and just click “submit applicationâ€. Soon Android will gather the attention they deserve. Yes, Apple does have the better applications, but Android is new, and with 4G rolling out, the future is bright.(Tie)

Variety - No matter what cellular service you are with, you always will have a choice to get yourself an android device. With over 30+ phones on Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint, anyone has a chance to go Android.(Winner - Android)

Multitasking - Android’s multi tasking is incredible. Android’s main feature is the notification bar, something iPhone will never have. Yes, Apple finally will support multi tasking, but it has no chance against Android. (Winner - Android)

Folders - This is very disappointing how this feature is one the biggest features in the new iOS 4. Folders was introduced in Android 3 years ago. Welcome to Earth, Steve Jobs. Apple does deserve credit. iPhone’s folders does seem a slight upgrade compared to the current folders on Android.(Winner - Apple)

Physical Keyboards - Want a touchscreen? Get an EVO or Nexus One. Want a keyboard? Get the Droid or Devour. Simple as that.(Winner - Android)

FLASH - I remember waiting impatiently for the Froyo leak for my Nexus One just a few weeks back. I couldn't wait to try Flash 10.1 Beta. It’s been two weeks and I can’t remember the last time I used Flash. This is very sad. Maybe Steve Jobs was right after all. Regardless, Flash opens up opportunities. Android users can now go away from the market and play their favorite online game, or even watch their favorite TV Shows.
(Winner - Android)

Tethering- Share your 3G or 4G Internet with your iPad, MAC, or PC. It was hilarious how Google demonstrated the new Android tether feature by tethering with the iPad.(Winner - Android)

Speed - No one can really tell how fast that new A4 chip will be on the iPhone 4. Until then, this is a draw with Android’s Snapdragon 1GHZ Processor. (Tie)

On a side note - iPhone users need to Jailbreak or hack their phones to get it as good as Android. That’s sad. Yes, there is jailbreaking for android, but its not that silly little changing themes and getting free apps. Jailbreaking for nexus gives you a choice to switch between different android devices such as having the EVO/Sense UI on a nexus one.Andy
I was tempted to get an iPhone after the first year on my BlackBerry last year, but when I was looking at the Android phones for the first time this year, I was blown away by the customization and look of Android. I've usually liked Apple products since I've bought many laptops, endless iPods and accessories...but I seem to enjoy modding my phone and having options to change anything I want on the fly
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Hmmm im looking forward to this one!
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I'm replying to the large quote two posts above me,

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4G - HTC EVO 4G is the first phone in the US to support 4G. Ironically Apple’s new phone is code named iPhone 4, but does not support 4G. Step your game up Apple. We live in a world that demands SPEED. I doubt AT&T’s 3G speeds can compete with Sprint’s 4G.(Winner - Android)
iPhone 4 supports much faster than 3G speeds, I think they are actually 4G. However AT&T's network does not support those speeds yet thus the iPhone is ready to when AT&T upgrade their network.

(I could be wrong about it being 4G, but it supports much faster than 3G)
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Video Chat over 3G - I’m sorry Apple. If I wanted to video chat on my WiFi connection, I would head over to my Mac. Thanks for trying though. (Winner - Android)
You might not always be near your Mac, WiFi will support MUCH better quality video and audio than 3G can, and possibly even 4G (unsure about that). Apple will make FaceTime over 3G/4G work when AT&T can support it (which according to SJ's it won't be in 2010).

Android doesn't win over this, the handset does. I think it's only because its on a handset with a different carrier.
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Applications (Tie) Apple’s application approval process is very slow and sometimes takes months! This causes frustrated developers, and sometimes developers even quit leaving the application on the app store with no more future updates. ALA Facebook Developer.
Wrong. SJ's has said that Apple receives 15,000 app submissions per week (including updates) and that 95% of them are approved. The rejected ones are rejected for good reasons too.
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Android is SO simple. Develop your application and just click “submit application”. Soon Android will gather the attention they deserve.
So you can have malicious apps? Apps that do nothing? Apps wrongly advertised? And a lot of other junk apps?
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Yes, Apple does have the better applications, but Android is new, and with 4G rolling out, the future is bright.(Tie)
Apple has better applications because if the application is absolute rubbish, falsely advertised, malicious, or breaks one of their many rules (which aren't hard to keep) which keep apps simple, easy and makes sure they have a consistent experience then they will reject it until those things are fixed.
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Multitasking - Android’s multi tasking is incredible. Android’s main feature is the notification bar, something iPhone will never have. Yes, Apple finally will support multi tasking, but it has no chance against Android. (Winner - Android)
Apple's multi-tasking is brilliant, it won't have any significant impact on performance or battery life, you can't beat that.
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Folders - This is very disappointing how this feature is one the biggest features in the new iOS 4. Folders was introduced in Android 3 years ago. Welcome to Earth, Steve Jobs. Apple does deserve credit. iPhone’s folders does seem a slight upgrade compared to the current folders on Android.(Winner - Apple)
Did Android even have apps 3 years ago? Apple is adding things as they become necessary, and its a welcome upgrade.
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Tethering- Share your 3G or 4G Internet with your iPad, MAC, or PC. It was hilarious how Google demonstrated the new Android tether feature by tethering with the iPad.(Winner - Android)
The iPhone can't tether because AT&T won't let it. I've got my iPhone 3GS in Australia and have tethered many times to my Mac.
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Speed - No one can really tell how fast that new A4 chip will be on the iPhone 4. Until then, this is a draw with Android’s Snapdragon 1GHZ Processor. (Tie)
It'll likely be exactly like the A4 in the iPad, which is much faster than the Snapdragon.
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On a side note - iPhone users need to Jailbreak or hack their phones to get it as good as Android. That’s sad. Yes, there is jailbreaking for android, but its not that silly little changing themes and getting free apps. Jailbreaking for nexus gives you a choice to switch between different android devices such as having the EVO/Sense UI on a nexus one.
There is a lot more to jail breaking than what you've said, I can't argue about it much because that's all I know. But you can customise a lot!
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iPhone 4 is not a 4G device in any way, shape, or form.
 
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iPhone 4 is not a 4G device in any way, shape, or form.
If true, ill probably have to wait for the 4G version.
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If true, ill probably have to wait for the 4G version.
I've got a 3GS. While I'd love to have iPhone 4, there's little added benefit in my opinion to justify the steep early upgrade cost. Hopefully by this time next year AT&T will have their **** together with their 4G network, and Apple will introduce it then.

Then again, I seldom do anything data intensive on the cellular network anyway. All the 4G mumbo-jumbo is mostly bragging rights in my opinion. I believe far more people do their stuff over wifi than cellular.
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Originally Posted by steelbom View Post
I'm replying to the large quote two posts above me,


iPhone 4 supports much faster than 3G speeds, I think they are actually 4G. However AT&T's network does not support those speeds yet thus the iPhone is ready to when AT&T upgrade their network.

(I could be wrong about it being 4G, but it supports much faster than 3G)

You might not always be near your Mac, WiFi will support MUCH better quality video and audio than 3G can, and possibly even 4G (unsure about that). Apple will make FaceTime over 3G/4G work when AT&T can support it (which according to SJ's it won't be in 2010).

Android doesn't win over this, the handset does. I think it's only because its on a handset with a different carrier.

Wrong. SJ's has said that Apple receives 15,000 app submissions per week (including updates) and that 95% of them are approved. The rejected ones are rejected for good reasons too.

So you can have malicious apps? Apps that do nothing? Apps wrongly advertised? And a lot of other junk apps?

Apple has better applications because if the application is absolute rubbish, falsely advertised, malicious, or breaks one of their many rules (which aren't hard to keep) which keep apps simple, easy and makes sure they have a consistent experience then they will reject it until those things are fixed.

Apple's multi-tasking is brilliant, it won't have any significant impact on performance or battery life, you can't beat that.

Did Android even have apps 3 years ago? Apple is adding things as they become necessary, and its a welcome upgrade.

The iPhone can't tether because AT&T won't let it. I've got my iPhone 3GS in Australia and have tethered many times to my Mac.

It'll likely be exactly like the A4 in the iPad, which is much faster than the Snapdragon.

There is a lot more to jail breaking than what you've said, I can't argue about it much because that's all I know. But you can customise a lot!
Clearly this guy is not a fanboy.
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Clearly this guy is not a fanboy.
... I'm not a fanboy, thats insulting. They are valid answers. Some of the stuff in that article was wrong.
Edited by steelbom - 6/11/10 at 8:35pm
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... I'm not a fanboy, thats insulting. They are valid answers. Some of the stuff in that article was wrong.
I'll agree with a good deal of it, except for the A4 processor. It's definitely not twice as fast as the Snapdragon. I will admit it is well optimized though.
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