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As title says.. any list of advantages/disadvantages with the 4xx nvidia cards and 5xxx cards that helps one decide?

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Edited by shashidam - 6/7/10 at 2:10pm
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Oh wow, This thread is about to go nuclear. Before that happens, Ill share my opinion..
If price, power consumption, and heat are the deciding factors, then 5xxx series all the way..
If you got the money, the power, and dont mind the heat ( which actually isnt really that bad ). And you like to fold, and you like to play any game without worrying if you card supports certain features , Go with the 4xx series.
post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by Capwn View Post
Oh wow, This thread is about to go nuclear. Before that happens, Ill share my opinion..
If price, power consumption, and heat are the deciding factors, then 5xxx series all the way..
If you got the money, the power, and dont mind the heat ( which actually isnt really that bad ). And you like to fold, and you like to play any game without worrying if you card supports certain features , Go with the 4xx series.
i would personally recommend a crossfire setup with two 5870's, they will seriously outperform sli 470's, produce less heat, consume less power, and overclock better and only cost $100 more than the sli 470 setup.
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5870:

+Cheaper
+Usually pretty close in performance to GTX480
+Lower power usage and heat output
+Supports Eyefinity
-Quite a bit slower in tessellation heavy rendering
-Lacks CUDA and PhysX
-Poor folding performance by comparison
-Lacks first party 3D gaming support

For the GTX480, reverse the pluses and minuses, more or less. Also there are things I am forgetting. I was under the impression that the GTX400 cards support something related to Blu-ray that the HD5000 cards do not.
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i would personally recommend a crossfire setup with two 5870's, they will seriously outperform sli 470's, produce less heat, consume less power, and overclock better and only cost $100 more than the sli 470 setup.
Are you talking to me???
You do realize two 5870s would have cost me MORE money for LESS features rightt?? No thanks.. The OP asked about the cards for HIM, Not you to base your whole comment off of what I own....

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I'll give you a run down of the competing cards.

The 4XX series are criticized for their heat and power consumption. Although the heat isn't as bad as people think it is, they do draw a little more power than the 58XX cards. Besides that, in raw performance it goes as follows.

5850<470<5870<480

The 470 is just a tad under the 5870 performance, while the 480 is a good bit above it.
The 58XX cards run a lot cooler and usually overclock very well.
However, the 4XX cards so much more improvement from their overclocks than the 58XX cards. What I mean by this is if you were to overclock a GTX 470 and a 5850 to the same percentage gain (30% overclock or such), the 470 would show a higher performance gain from said overclock. Same with the 5870 and 480.
The 4XX cards overclock very well. I am sitting on a 47% overclock on my GTX 470 on air. 55% overclock when on water. This puts my card a good ways ahead of a stock GTX 480.
The 5850 when overclocked to 1GHz just catches the 5870. While the 470 can beat out a 480 by a good margin.
price wise, the 470 is right between the 5850 and 5870 which makes its price perfect for its performance. Maybe even a little cheaper than it should be. The 480 is a tad overpriced at $500 though. It needs to be around $450.
Also, keep in mind that the 4XX series are still developing drivers which means that there is potential for some massive performance gains as drivers mature. The 58XX drivers are pretty much as good as they are going to get and I don't really expect anything major in terms of performacne gains from future drivers.

I hope this helps. All of this information was gathered from personal experience of owning 2x 5850s, 4x 5870s, and 6x GTX 470s.
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btw some cool threads going down over some unlocking action to "step up" like 465=470 470=480

fun stuff
just trying to be helpful and give you some additional info
    
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-PhysX
-CUDA
-3D Vision
-TWIMTBP
-Vastly superior Tessellation performance

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*Disclaimer: While factual, this post may be slightly biased
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5850<470<5870<480

That is how it is, 470s do not get hot as people are saying(aka people that don't actually own the card), only the 480

The 5850 is really really close to the 470 in some games, and the 470 can sometimes dance with a 5870. I got ther 470 because i know through time it will improve even more while ati cards already had a big increase in the drivers by now. Also cuda and physx is a bonus

Also nvidia cards are good at folding as well and lets not forget about tessellation. People have told me about ati drivers etc giving problems thats kinda why i avoided ati but don't really let that be your deciding factor since i do not know how their drivers works because i don't own a 5xxx card(ask the ati guys about that)

But the 5850 and 5870 do give less heat, etc and there are some 5850s being sold for 280 if you look well.
    
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Originally Posted by timAHH View Post
5870:

+Cheaper
+Usually pretty close in performance to GTX480
+Lower power usage and heat output
+Supports Eyefinity
-Quite a bit slower in tessellation heavy rendering
-Lacks CUDA and PhysX
-Poor folding performance by comparison
-Lacks first party 3D gaming support

For the GTX480, reverse the pluses and minuses, more or less. Also there are things I am forgetting. I was under the impression that the GTX400 cards support something related to Blu-ray that the HD5000 cards do not.
Thank you. Exactly what I was after!

I see no reason for trolling fighting or spamming because it's all objective here as you see from the quoted post above.

It's much easier to do a comparasion with advantages/disadvantages.
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