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On the video cards the reference card is of ATI's original design. Sort of the way it was meant to be before the manufactures start cutting corners on production costs. They are more overclockable it seems and even at stock speeds they perform better. At least that has been my experience with comparing scores between my non reference 5850 and my brothers reference 5850 on similar rigs at stock GPU clocks.


Top is the reference card.
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There's also for example the 5870 Vapor-X.
That clearly isn't reference http://www.google.nl/images?hl=nl&q=...og&sa=N&tab=wi but it gets recommendations.
    
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On the motherboard I fully understand the budget contraints and having to draw the line somewhere. I was just thinking of if you had a board in mind that you liked it would be a good idea to be aware of rather or not there was as pro or deluxe etc.. version of it. Then at least you have your eyes open for it and if you happen to see it on sale or with a rebate or something like that it could be an option. Or as was the case with the Asus the price difference was relatively small ($20 ??). Opening up the possibility of shaving that cost difference off somewhere else in the build rather than on the motherboard.
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Originally Posted by Hy3RiD View Post
5870 will start to struggle @ that res, 1080p is fine for it.
Also a 5870 will not fit in a CM Scout
Where did you come to that conclusion?

I have seen 5870's dominate on a triple 1080p setup . . . go on YouTube and check it out.
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Originally Posted by ~sizzzle~ View Post
On the motherboard I fully understand the budget contraints and having to draw the line somewhere. I was just thinking of if you had a board in mind that you liked it would be a good idea to be aware of rather or not there was as pro or deluxe etc.. version of it. Then at least you have your eyes open for it and if you happen to see it on sale or with a rebate or something like that it could be an option. Or as was the case with the Asus the price difference was relatively small ($20 ??). Opening up the possibility of shaving that cost difference off somewhere else in the build rather than on the motherboard.
You have a great point there. What do you recommend though? Dropping down on the graphics and going for a more feature fulled mobo or just pick the cheapest quality board around? (Enjoy this rep for the informative post!)
    
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Thanks for the rep Jim. To each his own of course. I would look at dropping down to the 5850 and spending the difference on the main system componets as a viable option. Might even look at spending some of it on the 750tx psu over the 650tx. etc.. I highly doubt that you will be sitting around kicking yourself for doing so. Then once the price shock of the initial build wears off it is just a quick and painless upgrade to crossfired 5850's which will outperform the single 5870.

Depending on which motherboard and local prices you might not be too far off though. If you can find just the right deal and make the upgrade without losing the 5870 do that instead. Looking again at your picks it doesn't look like you have a lot of wiggle room but its worth looking into. Even something like reusing an onhand optical drive could make it happen.
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You have a great point there. What do you recommend though? Dropping down on the graphics and going for a more feature fulled mobo or just pick the cheapest quality board around? (Enjoy this rep for the informative post!)
You could go with a HD5850 and save quite a lot of cash. Then overclock the HD5850 to HD5870 speeds so it comes within 3% of the HD5870 performance.

I'd say the mainboard is a pretty important component, the videocard can always be replaced later.
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Another thought. Data drives are an easy to install down the road. Maybe shave a few bucks off that hard drive by going with a 320 or a WD instead of the Sammy. hdd's are alot easier to upgrade than motherboards.
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Thanks for the thoughts.

As for the choice of MOBO I was looking for:

Asus P7P55D Pro
MSI P55-GD65

Both at least x8 x8 lanes (or x16 x8 x4)

MSI to be considered quality? I've read mixed thoughts about this. Giga and Asus being good and MSI decent or even bad quality. They are certainly cheaper.
The HDD, possible to shave a few 10 euro's max from the price. I'm recycling my dvd drive already. I don't think it's possible to recycle more.

PSU I was looking for maybe the Seasonic x-750. It costs ALOT but it's getting decent reviews and it's FULLY modular.

Ah and the graphics. The 5850 is only available in relatively expensive versions. So picking a cheap 5870 might be worth it.
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I'm not familiar enough with the boards to recomend one over the other. I wouldn't shy away from MSI on name alone. They all make good ones and they all make bad ones. Since you have it narrowed down maybe starting a new post down in the Intel Motherboard forum is in order. Might be able to get some informed opinions from a wider audience.
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