Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Coding and Programming › Web Coding › Suggest a WYSIWYG Editor?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Suggest a WYSIWYG Editor?

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
I am going to renovate my own personal website, I have used Web Plus X2 that has now been upgraded to X4, I feel the software is quite disorganised, I did consider going upto X4 but I wanna try a new suite...

Any suggestions?

EDIT: No MS Expression, had to use it at college and hated it!
post #2 of 8
Without offending you...why not learn HTML/CSS?
Personal PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 720 Gigabyte MA-790X-UD4P MSI GeForce 9800GT 4GB OCZ Reapers DDR2 1150 @ 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate Barracude 250gb * 2 Ubuntu 10.04 23" Dell SP2309W (2048x1152) PC Power & Cooling 610 
Case
Antec Three Hundred 
  hide details  
Reply
Personal PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 720 Gigabyte MA-790X-UD4P MSI GeForce 9800GT 4GB OCZ Reapers DDR2 1150 @ 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate Barracude 250gb * 2 Ubuntu 10.04 23" Dell SP2309W (2048x1152) PC Power & Cooling 610 
Case
Antec Three Hundred 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
I am going to eventually just wanna get a fully working site up on my domain before I try and learn my own.
post #4 of 8
None.

I hate to be the guy to say it, as I know it sounds like a common response, but WYSIWYG editors, by their nature, do not do good web development.

Web development is not about making websites based on how they look. It's a big part of it, and the part most people use, but that shouldn't be what any good web developer focusses entirely on.

The XHTML describes the content. The CSS describes how it should be displayed. WYSIWYG editors can't describe the content like you can because they don't understand it, they only understand how it will be seen.

XHTML and CSS are not hard to learn. Look up some good sites (a list apart, etc...), and I suggest using Komodo Edit and the Zen Coding plugin. Zen coding is a really nice idea that works well (you'll want to learn how to code HTML and CSS first, it's just a nice system to speed up the process later on.

As an example of why a WYSIWYG editor can't work properly, lets use the idea of emphasising some text. A WYSIWYG editor might create a <span> element and use CSS to make it bold (assuming it's that good, most will probably just use the depreciated <b> tag). This only tells a web browser to make it bold. If you are writing it by hand, you might use the <em> tag to make emphasised text, and CSS to make it bold. This tells whatever the user visits the site with that text is more important. A screen reader will emphasise it with tone, a search engine might take more notice of the text, etc...

Using your code to describe your content is the point of XHTML, and something a lot of people miss.
Edited by lattyware - 6/8/10 at 3:58pm
Shinobu
(16 items)
 
Nodoka
(16 items)
 
Index
(4 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-3570K Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe HD6450 Flex Crucial 16GB (2x 8GB) Ballistix Elite 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB TOSHIBA DT01ACA300 Arch Linux Dell UltraSharp U2713HM 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Dell U2410 Dell 2407WFP Cherry - Cherry Blue Switches (Unlabeled keys) Seasonic X-650 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
BitFenix Prodigy Black Logitech M570 Trackball Sennheiser HD595 Creative GigaWorks T20 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570K Zotac Z77-ITX WiFi EVGA 680 GTX Samsung 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 256GB 830 Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ Windows 7 Dell U2410 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardCase
Dell 2407WFP Dell E248WFP Cherry Black (MX Blue Switches, Blank Keys) Silverstone Sugi SG08B 
MouseAudioAudio
Logitech Trackman Logitech Z-5500 Sennheiser HD595s 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD Athlon II X2 240e Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz Ballistix Sport 1.5TB Hard Drives 
  hide details  
Reply
Shinobu
(16 items)
 
Nodoka
(16 items)
 
Index
(4 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-3570K Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe HD6450 Flex Crucial 16GB (2x 8GB) Ballistix Elite 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB TOSHIBA DT01ACA300 Arch Linux Dell UltraSharp U2713HM 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Dell U2410 Dell 2407WFP Cherry - Cherry Blue Switches (Unlabeled keys) Seasonic X-650 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
BitFenix Prodigy Black Logitech M570 Trackball Sennheiser HD595 Creative GigaWorks T20 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570K Zotac Z77-ITX WiFi EVGA 680 GTX Samsung 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 256GB 830 Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ Windows 7 Dell U2410 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardCase
Dell 2407WFP Dell E248WFP Cherry Black (MX Blue Switches, Blank Keys) Silverstone Sugi SG08B 
MouseAudioAudio
Logitech Trackman Logitech Z-5500 Sennheiser HD595s 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD Athlon II X2 240e Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz Ballistix Sport 1.5TB Hard Drives 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 8
Awesome job lattyware...+1

As for Komodo Edit, I tried it & it was alright but I've fallen in love with RadRails. It's a lot like Eclipse for Java (it basically is eclipse with a focus on web development). Komodo Edit is definitely good though!
Personal PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 720 Gigabyte MA-790X-UD4P MSI GeForce 9800GT 4GB OCZ Reapers DDR2 1150 @ 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate Barracude 250gb * 2 Ubuntu 10.04 23" Dell SP2309W (2048x1152) PC Power & Cooling 610 
Case
Antec Three Hundred 
  hide details  
Reply
Personal PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 720 Gigabyte MA-790X-UD4P MSI GeForce 9800GT 4GB OCZ Reapers DDR2 1150 @ 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate Barracude 250gb * 2 Ubuntu 10.04 23" Dell SP2309W (2048x1152) PC Power & Cooling 610 
Case
Antec Three Hundred 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 8
I agree that you should learn the markup and all, but WYSIWYGs are useful in learning too. I suggest MS Visual Web Developer Express, it's free and an awesome interface.
post #7 of 8
I agree with what others have said. Take the time and learn HTML/CSS now and work your way through it. Once you get going in a WYSIWYG editor, you will likely never bother to learn the code.

If you get stuck with anything, just ask! I know I'd be happy to explain some things.
Fozzie
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600K Processor @ 4.4GHz ASUS P8P67 DELUXE MSI N570GTX TF3 PE/OC SLI 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD ASUS DRW-24B1ST Windows 7 x64 Samsung S27A950D / Samsung 226BW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
DAS Professional Silent Corsair 750HX Cooler Master HAF X Steelseries Sensei 
Mouse Pad
Mionix Propus 380 
  hide details  
Reply
Fozzie
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600K Processor @ 4.4GHz ASUS P8P67 DELUXE MSI N570GTX TF3 PE/OC SLI 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD ASUS DRW-24B1ST Windows 7 x64 Samsung S27A950D / Samsung 226BW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
DAS Professional Silent Corsair 750HX Cooler Master HAF X Steelseries Sensei 
Mouse Pad
Mionix Propus 380 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 8
I saw the title of the thread and was going to suggest WYMEditor or TinyMCE... But now I see that suggestion is not what was wanted. LOL. In that case...

I'm tending to agree with all the other guys. Don't skimp on your skills man! XHTML and CSS is something you should learn unless you want your website to look like crap (in multiple browsers) and you don't care a bit about SEO. When you're searching out tutorials (ListOMatic, WASP, AListApart, et al) be sure to pay attention to the different version standards as well. HTML5 is coming into it's own, as is CSS3. No matter what you learn you won't be left in the dark, but as those standards are starting to be used more and more, there is more to learn.

And no matter what, just enjoy the process. It's a fun one!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Web Coding
Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Coding and Programming › Web Coding › Suggest a WYSIWYG Editor?