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Okie dokie. So I plan on getting the HAF X the second it hits street, because my case is a piece of complete and utter ****. All of my specs are in my sig.

Now that I will have room to play, I am thinking I need a newer, better CPU cooler. I would definitely want to hit 4ghz. Also about case cooling. Here is what I have in addition to the sig and eventual HAF X:

* Scythe Ultra Kaze 3k rpm 38mmX120mm fan. Currently my case exhaust.
* Scythe Slipstream 1.9k rpm 25mmX120mm fan, currently my main intake
* The two stock 120X25 case fans from the case. One I tapes to the VGA vent to provide MUCH needed GPU cooling.

What cooling do you think would be most appropriate. Noise is not that much of an issue, I know those 280's are going to be running at at least 65% regardless, so that is LOUD. The GPU's idle around 55c, and load in the mid/low 90's. Furmark pushes them well over 105c. The CPU in its current OC loads around 66-70c.

FYI ambient can get quite hot in my room, on a hot day that I can't put my AC on I would say 30c ambient would not be uncommon. When my AC is on full bore my room can (and will) chill out at 17c.

I was thinking of a few things. One option is to go with the H50. I was going to grab one initially, but due to a lake of top blow home on my case now I could not install it intaking air. I assume I could use one or both of those scythe fans on that sucker for good cooling? There is also the various prolimatech offerings, where I assume I can also utilize the ultra kaze.

Or am I wrong? Let me know and advise me best you can ladies and gets. Because this cannot continue:

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i think first you should work on getting a new case and cable management lol
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i think first you should work on getting a new case and cable management lol
He is getting a new case, as stated in the second sentence of his post.

It seems you got the case airflow covered already.

Grab either of the below coolers, and that 4GHz mark should be very realistic:

1. Noctua NH-D14
2. Cogage Arrow
3. Venomous X
4. Prolimatech Megahalems

Can't go wrong with any. Get two good fans for push/pull, and you're golden.
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Oh my bad, i didn't bother reading obviously hahahaha i think i am getting sick i am not myself.
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Get a H50, or MEGA or TRUE and either use your KAZEs for push/pull or just pull with shrouds, or get Gentle Typhoons, which may be better becasue of higher static pressure. cable management is huge, so do your best there.

for better cooling of the GPUs, use a fan attached to the "front" where the 6/8 pins are plugged in, or on the "side" where you can see the logo, to help push air into the fan, also a high CFM fan in the front couldnt hurt either.
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You must not mind noise if you are fine with a UK 3k. Considering the HAFX has quite a few stock fans you should be good in that respect. Keep the UK for the new cooler...I suggest Mega...solid cooler with a good static pressure 38mm fan and not oversized.

Get that cable management going and i'd say you are well on your way.

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Get a H50, or MEGA or TRUE and either use your KAZEs for push/pull or just pull with shrouds, or get Gentle Typhoons, which may be better becasue of higher static pressure. cable management is huge, so do your best there.

for better cooling of the GPUs, use a fan attached to the "front" where the 6/8 pins are plugged in, or on the "side" where you can see the logo, to help push air into the fan, also a high CFM fan in the front couldnt hurt either.

GT's will not have better static pressure then a push/pull UK 3K but it will be 10 times quieter. Once he changes to the HAF X his case air flow should not be an issue.
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Can I get a link to the fans you would recommend for a Mega push pull? If they are that much quieter I would think about it.
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Can I get a link to the fans you would recommend for a Mega push pull? If they are that much quieter I would think about it.
See my first link in sig. Gentle Typhoons are the suggestion. Quite is cool

There are links to reviews of tons of fans and also links to videos of many fans...just read up on the fans section and click external links for even more info. Make a well educated decision
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See my first link in sig. Gentle Typhoons are the suggestion. Quite is cool

There are links to reviews of tons of fans and also links to videos of many fans...just read up on the fans section and click external links for even more info. Make a well educated decision
Took a good look at that link in between some epic mail merge action at work I am thinking either the arrow or the Venom X w/ the kaze.
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Don't get 120mm x 25mm fans for your CPU cooler. You have Scythe Ultra Kaze fans already? Then you can use those. I wouldn't buy these again due to their use of sleeve bearings. Bad performance when mounted horizontally, lower lifetime (around 40,000 hours) and they require more lubrication.

As for CPU coolers, I recommend the Prolimatech Megahalems, Thermalright Venomous-X (performance is the same as the Megahalems), the Noctua NH-D14, the Cogage Arrow or the Thermalright IFX-14. Using a lapped Arrow or lapped IFX-14 with three 120mm x 38mm fans is as good as it gets, but these are hard to fit, the mounting system is not very good and as I said the lapping would be necessary to beat the NH-D14.

Cooler Master has new CPU coolers coming out called the V6 and V6 GT. The GT is the same thing but it comes with a better fan and electroplated heat pipes and base. These will perform at least as good as the Prolimatech Megahalems or Thermalright Venomous-X. Some beta users have gotten better results than a Thermalright Venomous-X already. Any of these air coolers with good fans will outperform the H50 under heavy loads.

Scythe Slipstream fans are pretty bad fans too. They don't live very long at all (one of mine died after a few months) and they have lousy static pressure. For the HAF-X, I recommend the following.

- For 120mm x 25mm case fans I recommend Thermalright FDB fans. These have good airflow and long life Sony fluid dynamic bearings (over 60,000 hours), which allow these fans to cool well mounted horizontally or vertically. These bearings also allow for much quieter performance. They are the same fans as Scythe S-Flex.

- If you will only use 1 or 2 optical drive bays, remove the hot swappable drive bays except for one. Use one for your hard drive in one of the top 3 optical drive bays.

- With the hot swap bays gone and the bottom 3-4 optical drive bays vacant, you are now free to use this space for cooling. Get one of these or something similar. Don't bother using that front cover - the drive bay covers on the HAF-X can easily be removed externally, allowing for easy maintenance on those dust filters. On that 4-in-3 device, add two 120mm intake fans.

- Use a high quality 120mm x 38mm fan in the VGA air duct. Rexus/Panaflo or Delta are really the best options. Delta 120mm x 38mm fans use long life ball bearings (over 60,000 hours) which perform well mounted horizontally or vertically. The hydro wave bearings in Rexus/Panaflo fans last as long as ball bearings, they also work well in any orientation but they are much more quiet.

- So as far as airflow goes, if you don't mind spending a lot of cash you can replace the side and top 200mm fans with Cooler Master Storm Force 200mm fans. The stock 200mm fans and the stock 230mm fan are rated at 700 RPM/110 CFM/19 DBA. The CM Storm Force 200mm fans are rated at 1000 RPM/142 CFM/23 DBA. As for the front 230mm fan, you should be able to mod two 120mm intake fans easily since the front bezel can be removed by releasing 3 latches on each side. Or just stick a Storm Force 200mm fan there and that's that. No mods required.

- Using one of these 120mm fans I recommended as a bottom intake would airflow somewhat. You would want a powerful fan for this location, look at the 120mm x 38mm fans I recommended. Or you can use no fan and just use the PSU cable partition.

- Put the top dust filters onto the bottom of the case. A bottom fan and PSU would intake air from outside of the case (unless your PSU uses an 80mm fan or no fan). Top fans exhaust air so they don't need the dust filters.

- Don't use two 200mm top exhaust fans or three 120mm top exhaust fans. The second 200mm top fan or the third 120mm top fan would exhaust air before the air gets to cool your CPU. Luckily for the video card it has its own air duct.

- You can replace the rear fan with a 120mm fan if you wish. Not really necessary and it might not fit if you get one of the recommended air coolers and 120mm x 38mm fans.
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