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Yes, That is a better build.
You added a decent cooler for the build but you took out the DVD burner? You can always re-use the old one from the Dell so that's good to go.
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Phenom II has major benefits over the original Phenoms. Phenom II's are 45nm process vs Phenom's 65nm which means higher clocks with lower temperatures are possible with the smaller process. Also, Phenom II's have more cache to work with so I will say that X2 550 will perform better than that last generation X3 8650.

As for the i3 540 vs the X2 550, the i3 is better.





How does it make any diff anyways since its only going to be used on word and excel? A Athlon II X2 or X4 would do it just fine as well. That's one benchmark of many,the phenom/athlon does better in some areas.
    
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Yes, That is a better build.
You added a decent cooler for the build but you took out the DVD burner? You can always re-use the old one from the Dell so that's good to go.
Yeah sorry It was a earlier build I made, but I forgot the burner, however the Old DVD Drive can be reused, I just hate that big IDE cable! Makes it hard for cable management.


EDIT: Wait, does that H55M-S2H even have a IDE port? :O
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As for the i3 540 vs the X2 550, the i3 is better.

Not really

The i3 540 is about 50% more expensive, and while it's at least 50% faster overall, for the intended usage target it's a waste.

Much better for a gaming machine, I grant you.

For a word processing machine as compared to the original computer it's replacing, it's not worth paying the extra cash.

The user would be better served with better disks than faster processors for that usage profile.

So....better, well, yes.

Better for the intended purpose...no, but if the price is in your range then sure, go ahead.
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Not really

The i3 540 is about 50% more expensive, and while it's at least 50% faster overall, for the intended usage target it's a waste.

Much better for a gaming machine, I grant you.

For a word processing machine as compared to the original computer it's replacing, it's not worth paying the extra cash.

The user would be better served with better disks than faster processors for that usage profile.

So....better, well, yes.

Better for the intended purpose...no, but if the price is in your range then sure, go ahead.
Your probably right, I just always had a love for Intel, because in old days AMD became hot, and overall was just slow... I'm sorry for that Well I'll try to put together a new system then
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So is this the final build I should be going for?

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The phenom 1 wouldn't have been compatible on the asus board anyway. Its an am2+ on an am3 board.
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post #18 of 49
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Your probably right, I just always had a love for Intel, because in old days AMD became hot, and overall was just slow... I'm sorry for that Well I'll try to put together a new system then

Hey, I'm not knocking Intel, nor the comment that the i3-540 is a better CPU, it is.

I look at it from the perspective of cost for intended purpose, and propose to balance choices in a budget.

If you recall hot, slow AMD chips, you must have used them in the K6-2 days (when they certainly were).

At this point, with all the market forces at work, then for any price point AMD puts together a good option. You can almost figure it as a cost per unit of work in real time, which is why though the i3-540 is faster, it's more expensive by almost exactly the same margin.

The AMD X2 proposed would be in the area of 4 times the speed of the original Dell processor (depending on which P4 it was).

The i3-540 would be around 6.5 to 7 times faster.

On the other hand, if you HAD used the same hard drive, you might not even notice the speed difference over the P4 for about 85% of the tasks in Word and Excel (unless they're very complex spreadsheets) - because the disk would be a more significant bottleneck.

If the CPU is an OEM (no cooler), your HSF is fine.

If the CPU is retail (has a cooler) - you can use that and save on the HSF if you're not going to overclock (which would probably be unnoticed for that usage profile unless YOU'RE going to use the machine too)

Many 785's are DDR2, double check (I can't tell from that link about the selected RAM).

DDR2 is fine for this usage profile and save a few dollars.

The board is good..IGP entirely effective.

If you have ASRock as an option, they're an ASUS related company, and they have a couple of 785 boards that are nearly identical but may be a tad cheaper, if you need to shave a couple of bucks (or switch TO DDR2 to save a few more).
Edited by JVene - 6/8/10 at 11:59am
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Hey, I'm not knocking Intel, nor the comment that the i3-540 is a better CPU, it is.

I look at it from the perspective of cost for intended purpose, and propose to balance choices in a budget.

If you recall hot, slow AMD chips, you must have used them in the K6-2 days (when they certainly were).

At this point, with all the market forces at work, then for any price point AMD puts together a good option. You can almost figure it as a cost per unit of work in real time, which is why though the i3-540 is faster, it's more expensive by almost exactly the same margin.

The AMD X2 proposed would be in the area of 4 times the speed of the original Dell processor (depending on which P4 it was).

The i3-540 would be around 6.5 to 7 times faster.

On the other hand, if you HAD used the same hard drive, you might not even notice the speed difference over the P4 for about 85% of the tasks in Word and Excel (unless they're very complex spreadsheets) - because the disk would be a more significant bottleneck.

If the CPU is an OEM (no cooler), your HSF is fine.

If the CPU is retail (has a cooler) - you can use that and save on the HSF if you're not going to overclock (which would probably be unnoticed for that usage profile unless YOU'RE going to use the machine too)
Oh seriously the Semprons run hot, had one before and I burned my hand when I touched the heatsink...

And the board uses DDR3...
Edited by LTC - 6/8/10 at 12:03pm
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The Semprons spanned three different sockets that I recall, so that name covers very different designs.

I had a pair in a dual socket A board at 2 Ghz...the HSF's were really small compared to what we're used to now, and I think they underestimated the thermal demands, though I never saw over 51 C from them.

I skipped over the others toward the first X2 chips...still hot, yes, but good value (especially at that time the motherboards were much cheaper than Intel counterparts).


Have you considered pushing your current CPU to your Dad and upgrading yourself?
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