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YouTube- ASUS EFI GUI BIOS for P5Q series Motherboardsi wouldn't mind
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Uefi ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited by Eduardv - 6/8/10 at 2:56pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daney View Post
I MUCH prefer BIOS over UEFI I hope this doesn't happen (soon if at all).
So what is your plan once we have HDDs larger than 2TB?
    
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Hmmmm.......I'll wait to have a play before I voice my opinion
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I don't really care, As long as I can OC.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post

The BIOS is meant to be one of those areas where the enthusiast or technician go into only, and the consumer never goes in unless under instruction from one of those two, point and click makes things a lot harder for something as simple as a BIOS.

I agree that we need a BIOS replacement, but the point and click is an unneeded waste of resources.



Which we do not need and would in fact hinder the industry, why? Because when you're using one input peripheral, you're a lot faster than if you use two. (Mouse to select stuff and keyboard to type/alter values.)

Once again, I'm all for getting rid of the BIOS, but making it look pretty, giving it a GUI and mouse support? That's just asking for trouble from the unwashed masses.



^ This is what I mean, it seems mroe based around letting the same kind of people who use limewire to download a 26Kb version of GTA San Andreas and then blame Windows for the viruses on their computer.



But it's not up to us, its up to the motherboard makers, isn't it? I can understand giving noobs the point and click one from a support, but it will slow down techies, etc if you're stuck with a clunky mouse interface, my mums old IBM Thinkpad had something like it (Until I formatted the HDD, oddly enough) and it was horrid to use compared to the Blue and Yellow screen on my computer.

Note: I agree with the need to replace the BIOS, but I disagree with the point and click interface (As do most of the people against UEFI from what I can see), it slows us techies and enthusiasts down (The people who are MEANT to be in the BIOS area) to make it easier for the unwashed masses. (The people that aren't meant to be in the BIOS)

Best way to make it good for techies and consumers, add UEFI with the normal text from the old BIOS on non-Dell, HP, etc motherboards, with every possible option tweakable, for the OEM boards, have the slow, clunky mouse interface, but have it passworded and make it so you get the password when you call up Support, rather than having it so Little Johnny can try to boot off his USB stick and then wonders why Windows doesn't load any more (And blames it on not having a Mac too, I bet).
Or at least remove just about every option other than Boot Order, Virtualization and Time.
What a load of elitist bullcrap. First of all having a GUI is not a waste of resources, you have the resources there, you are paying the cost of using them (in power) so why not actually use them?

Second if you don't want a GUI, guess what, you don't have to have one.

Your argument is basically hinges on that you don't like the idea of computers being easier to use and for more people to understand them.

Well a while ago overclocking was done through jumpers on the motherboard, and when the first motherboard came with overclocking ability in the BIOS the elitists back then complained then that it made it "too easy" and would consider you and I how you consider everyone who doesn't understand computers to the degree you or I do, i.e. they would view us as, to quote you, "noobs".

Computers are tools. The best tools are the ones that are the easiest to use.
Edited by voice - 6/8/10 at 3:17pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisB17 View Post
I don't really care, As long as I can OC.
This.
    
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post #68 of 166
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryWin View Post
Does this mean my "bios" will BSOD?
No no, your BIOS will BSOL (Blue Screen of Life).
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Sounds more like the Universal Extensible Firmware Interface with its Efficient Flexible and Intelligent firmwares are going to be More controlling within the limits of the bios so you will Probably have a limitation in what you can do in the bios before you become software restricted and the Software will Probably then take over part of the Overclocking control for you,

Hmmm its not like we have not seen that before in Bios before now,
You hit a limit in the Bios and the Bios automatically changes something to Balance out the Overclock for you or your Mistake,

It Probably wont be a Bad thing as long as it doesnt Fully restict what the Clocker wants to do.


Quote:
Originally Posted by voice View Post
Computers are tools. The best tools are the ones that are the easiest to use.
If that being the Case then why arent we all at the top of our Game ?
CNC Machines have been made easier (Im not a CNC Machinist)
CAD programs have been made easier (Im not a CAD Tech either)

If your Quotation was true then we would all be on an Equal Playing Field in Life Some people should just not step in to Something they do not Fully understand and unfortunately with the Ever growing need for Knowledge simpler is not always Better.
Edited by macca_dj - 6/8/10 at 3:41pm
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Change is good(usually), we need refresh on things through time, if not everything stays in the same glass jar until it rusts, or some such thought. Sometimes it sucks, sometimes it doesn't. I think BIOS needs it though, a tad bit to over the edge age wise, I look forward to change on this.
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