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Originally Posted by PDXMark View Post
'If you are' in the Intel community, then you know who that quote is from. Right?

I'll give you a hint, ex-CIA member who wrote a book in the 80's condemning his former employers lies and deceit upon US taxpayers in the Afghan/Russian situation.


Pretty much the reason why so much of their wrong doing is very apparent now.

BTW: As it stands, the intelligence community are only corporate yes-men. They have nothing to do with the safety of Americans. Just the safety of international business.

Since I hang with Cryptographers, there is one very important thing I've learned,
'those who work in the intel community don't talk about it'!

Anything else you would like to share?
Good job dummy.

BTW: Cryptographers are part of the intel community.

You realize that intel is possibly one of the best resources of any fighting force right? So the Army/marines/air force/navy have nothing to do with the safety of Americans? I bet you are one of those Navy cats who sits up there in the NE with headphones on all day, and hates his job.
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post #62 of 80
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Everyone has a right to privacy. This is vitally important as the second the government can see what we are doing all the time, they have absolute control over us. The Govenrnment should never have absolute control - the second they do, we no longer have freedom, or if we do, it is at their mercy, which isn't true freedom.

I understand what you are saying, but that is a good notion for personal morals, not for laws and justice.
You may have misunderstood me Latty. I will fight to the death for the privacy of the people. But the government is here to serve us and therefore is entitled to let us know anything we want to know.
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It is one thing to expose a cover-up... it is another thing to indiscriminately provide classified information. That was Adrian Lamo's issue with the whole thing.
If my Army is killing journalists and children I want to know about it and have it exposed. I can't believe he turned the guy in.

That is the whole point of Wikileaks. For example, what if Abu ghraib was "classified", should it should continue unchecked and unbeknownst to US citizens? After all, it is classified.
Edited by timAHH - 6/13/10 at 10:41pm
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That guy is a little ***** *****.
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post #65 of 80
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If my Army is killing journalists and children I want to know about it and have it exposed. I can't believe he turned the guy in.

That is the whole point of Wikileaks. For example, what if Abu ghraib was "classified", should it should continue unchecked and unbeknownst to US citizens? After all, it is classified.
You realize wikileaks is a joke right?

The only stuff on there that is true is the stuff the media got before them. They don't expose anything. Just look at the line that talks about the 324234 pager messages between the government and the NYPD. You have to be an idiot to believe 90% of the crap on that site.
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You realize wikileaks is a joke right?

The only stuff on there that is true is the stuff the media got before them. They don't expose anything. Just look at the line that talks about the 324234 pager messages between the government and the NYPD. You have to be an idiot to believe 90% of the crap on that site.
I bet that's why FBI is after the guy behind Wikileaks. They like to joke around.
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Freedom of Information Act:

"President Bush's Executive Order limiting the FOIA
Executive Order 13233, drafted by Alberto R. Gonzales and issued by President George W. Bush on November 1, 2001, shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks, restricted access to the records of former Presidents."

"This order was revoked on January 21, 2009, as part of President Barack Obama's Executive Order 13489,[17] which encourages openness, transparency and accountability in government records. Public access to presidential records was restored to the extent originally outlined in the Presidential Records Act.[18]"

"On December 29, 2009, President Barack Obama issued Executive Order 13526, which allows the government to classify certain specific types of information relevant to national security after it has been requested.[24] That is, a request for information that meets the criteria for availability under FOIA can still be denied if the government determines that the information should have been classified, and unavailable. It also sets a timeline for automatic declassification of old information that is not specifically identified as requiring continued secrecy." --WIKIPEDIA

"U.S. military officers who presented the materials said Reuters had to make a request under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to get copies" --REUTERS
post #68 of 80
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If my Army is killing journalists and children I want to know about it and have it exposed. I can't believe he turned the guy in.

That is the whole point of Wikileaks. For example, what if Abu ghraib was "classified", should it should continue unchecked and unbeknownst to US citizens? After all, it is classified.
There are some people who say that exposing the reality of the situation puts our men in uniform at greater risk, but I think the complete opposite is probably true as well. Not exposing this fiasco will create greater unaccountability and precedent for more lies and death... and recently a report came out that the Iraqi government is highly-corrupt, most of our tax-dollars are NOT being used appropriately to rebuild schools, hospitals, infrastructure, etc, etc, etc. as we were told. SHAM.
Edited by scatlm - 6/14/10 at 7:51am
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You realize wikileaks is a joke right?

The only stuff on there that is true is the stuff the media got before them. They don't expose anything. Just look at the line that talks about the 324234 pager messages between the government and the NYPD. You have to be an idiot to believe 90% of the crap on that site.
Now, I'm not familiar with the extent of content on wikileaks but I do know they have leaked many of Government documents over the years that expose the tyrannical police state that we call the U.S.

You'd have to be blind not to see that this nation is crumbling quickly and on the verge of being taken over by off-shore banks of the world, under the guise of an environmental movement for a "New World Order." Don't believe me? they even say it themselves they're so open about it now its crazy. The sheeple are just to blind to even see the truth.
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It is one thing to expose a cover-up... it is another thing to indiscriminately provide classified information. That was Adrian Lamo's issue with the whole thing.
Yea i agree with what your saying, its different if your expossing corruption in a government instead of just showing off government secrets for no real reason.
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