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also, the Xonar requires a psu connection that all PSU connections should have from the start (the kind that plugs into your floppy drive).
The problem was the size of my case which is about the size of a stereo speaker. It feels like my ATX PSU takes up like half the case and the other half is taken up by wires lol.

I ordered this: ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 Channels PCI Express Interface Sound Card
newegg has been pricey the last few years, so I got it from amazon for cheaper.


Also I want to upgrade my speakers for <$85, is the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1CH for $71 my best bet? Will it be a very noticeable improvement over my $40 Creative inspire t3030 speakers?
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Not sure what kind of drugs you guys have been taking, but digital is digital. It will sound the same if it's onboard or a $5000 sound card. Any processing of the signal will be done at the other end.
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Not sure what kind of drugs you guys have been taking, but digital is digital. It will sound the same if it's onboard or a $5000 sound card. Any processing of the signal will be done at the other end.


I see you already bought the Xonar card, you know newegg has it for like 53 bucks after MIR right?

2nd, if you wanted the best card for around 30 you could have gotten an XtremeMusic off ebay used.
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There are a lot of misconceptions with digital transmissions. Just passing along a digital signal causes signal degradation. Read up on jitter and other timing errors if you wish to learn more. Digital and analog both have advantages/disadvantages and neither is perfect.
You are talking about optical toslink, not HDMI, which does not have to be re-clocked.

Toslink's advantage is that it avoids any electromagnetic interference. If your analog output is causing your speakers to hiss or crackle, that's audible distortion. Whatever jitter might be (nobody has managed to hear it yet in DBTs because they don't even know what it is), it's certainly a tradeoff anyone with above-average hearing would make. I think there are worse problems than around 10 picoseconds of time delay. 10 picoseconds is 1/100,000,000 of a second.

Can your eyes see the difference between 100,000,000 frames per second vs 100,000,001 frames per second?

Secondly, all the hoopla that magazines made a big deal of jitter were from the the early 1990s, based on research papers written in the 1980s. The toslink interface has changed significantly since then.
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