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There shouldn't be any felt difference according to these guys,unless you rather have the feeling of having the I7 name and the Intel badge.
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i <3 ocn.

steady supply of fresh meat.

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*me watch as these fanboys dance*

    
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7 pages of people comparing numbers of cores, gigahertz, and prices. Neither company is dumb, and their products that are at the same price point can compete against each other.
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My point there,the 256GB SSD is greatly helping the process.
Man,all these Thuban threads turn sour after the intel fanboys walk in on a AMD thread.
Listen, I have an AMD CPU. I just don't try and deny that Gulftown (whether it be Xeon or i7) is faster than Thuban. This isn't some big secret or conspiracy. Look up the reviews.

In fact, Gulftown is a higher percentage faster over Thuban than Bloomfield is over Deneb.

Why? Well first of all, Thuban is literally just Deneb with two extra cores strapped on. Westmere is actually a die shrink with several optimizations and improvements, listed here:

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Westmere
Westmere (formerly Nehalem-C) is the name given to the 32 nm die shrink of Nehalem. The first Westmere-based processors were launched on January 7, 2010 as the Core i3, Core i5, and dual-core mobile Core i7.
Westmere's features and improvements from Nehalem have been reported as follows:
Native six-core, and possibly dual-die hex-core (12-cores), processors.[51]
The successor to Bloomfield and Gainestown is six-core.
A new set of instructions that gives over 3x the encryption and decryption rate of Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) processes compared to before.[52]
Delivers seven new instructions (AES instruction set or AES-NI) that will be used by the AES algorithm. Also an instruction called PCLMULQDQ (see CLMUL instruction set) that will perform carry-less multiplication for use in cryptography.[53] These instructions will allow the processor to perform hardware-accelerated encryption, not only resulting in faster execution but also protecting against software targeted attacks.
AES-NI may be included in the integrated graphics of Westmere.
Integrated graphics, released at the same time as the processor.
Improved virtualization latency.[54]
New virtualization capability: "VMX Unrestricted mode support," which allows 16-bit guests to run (real mode and big real mode).
Support for "Huge Pages" of 1GB in size.
In addition to that, Gulftown has 12MB of L3 cache, maintaining 2MB per core, while Thuban kept the same amount it had for quad core processors, 6MB, so only 1MB per core which is down from Deneb.
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more simple it goes like that.
thuban is just a deneb + 2 cores.
gulftown is just a bloomfield in lower production process + hole half of quad cored bloomfield.
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Technically speaking. Isnt a hole half a quad core still 2 cores? Biased much?

Also if deneb was just 2 cores added a 3.2ghz 6 core would not be 125 watts like the 4 core 3.2ghz P II.
It's the same architecture regardless of TDP tweaks and such.

One thing AMD did manage to do was basically guarantee 4ghz with all of their Thuban chips. I have yet to see one X6 that hasn't hit 4ghz.

The 1055T is by far the way better value. If you're going to buy a 1090T, you might as well go i7.
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It's the same architecture regardless of TDP tweaks and such.

One thing AMD did manage to do was basically guarantee 4ghz with all of their Thuban chips. I have yet to see one X6 that hasn't hit 4ghz.

The 1055T is by far the way better value. If you're going to buy a 1090T, you might as well go i7.
not this time. like i said earlier, intel has lowered i7 920 prices bcs of phenoms x6. you can find i7 920 for 180 gbp. pretty much same power for pretty much same price. hope that when i7 920 will be sold out 930 will take price drop.
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It's the same architecture regardless of TDP tweaks and such.

One thing AMD did manage to do was basically guarantee 4ghz with all of their Thuban chips. I have yet to see one X6 that hasn't hit 4ghz.

The 1055T is by far the way better value. If you're going to buy a 1090T, you might as well go i7.
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not this time. like i said earlier, intel has lowered i7 920 prices bcs of phenoms x6. you can find i7 920 for 180 gbp. pretty much same power for pretty much same price. hope that when i7 920 will be sold out 930 will take price drop.
The prices are because the 920 is EOL (Due to the 930), not because of the X6s.
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