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Hey guys,

So I realized it was about time to start from scratch and build a new PC. Question is, I've been out of the PC market too long to find out what's actually good or not.

The purpose of the PC is to game. I'm not looking for super performance. I'm simply looking for above average performance. For instance - being able to run COD-MW 2 at full settings, or World of Warcraft at full settings, etc.

Important notes:


To be frank, and to be fair, I'm not looking to OC any time soon because for one, I'm awful at it and I don't want to damage anything. And for two, I can't afford a cooling system such as water cooling and the like any time soon.

So here we go.

The processor I've chosen was the:

AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor

And now, for my questions:

I have no idea which motherboard would be able to support this CPU on it's gaming benchmarks.

I have no idea on what RAM to buy, many people have told me to go with OCZ, but I don't know if I should stick to DDR2 or DD3?

GPU? No clue. Back in the day when the 6 series dominated all, nVidia was my first choice. Now? Not a single damn clue. Remember, I am on a budget here. Furthermore, I'm not looking for crap brands like "Zotac." I'm looking for some decent hardware with a bang for the buck.

Power supply? This shouldn't be too big of an issue. I know well enough Supersonic is pretty good when it comes to this. Other than that, no clue at all.

So, what'll be guys? Can you help a poor noob out? ;>

Thanks for your time.
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For a PSU, check my sig rig.
Mobo and ram you could also check my sig rig. (RAM is Corsair DDR2)
For GPU, for >1080p a 5770/GTX 465 will do
For anything above and including 1080p a 5870/GTX470.
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I heard XFX was crap though, btw +rep for the short reply!
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For the Motherboard?
- How much are you looking to spend on your motherboard?
- Do you want USB 3.0?

For the Graphics Card...
- How much are you looking to spend?
- Do you have any preference? Generally ATi will be your best bet for Bang-for-Buck:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-858-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-514-_-Product

Edit: Argg... Forgot to add the rest of the post. The second option would be a nVidia GTS 250, if you still have a preference towards nVidia.
Edited by hypnomatic - 6/9/10 at 10:59am
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For the motherboard..hmm, well let's just say that my total price shouldn't go over 700 USD (And that's pushing it).
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Originally Posted by Yoy0 View Post
For the motherboard..hmm, well let's just say that my total price shouldn't go over 700 USD (And that's pushing it).
Does that include the processor?
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XFX are ok but Usually Sapphire cards are best the warranty is not lifetime but I've only ever had a problem with 1 Sapphire card out of dozens ive purchased
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Since when was Zotac bad...

Anyways, you can probably the buy the same parts in my sig rig because this computer was under a tight budget too.

Other than the graphics card, you might need something better than the 9600GT. You might not need the Scythe Mugen 2 or the Xtreme Gamer sound card, though. Also you can choose the case you would like.

You can probably get a Corsair 550W, instead of 650W.
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post #9 of 30
For motherboard I would go with the AMD 790X chipset. No built-in graphics like the 790GX or 785 chipsets. You also can also go crossfire down the road.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130265

For RAM you will only be able to use DDR2 since the 940 CPU is AM2+, not AM3. I would go with G.Skill. Something along their PI or Trident series will work great with the board.

As far as a GPU is concerned, go with a HD5770. Price/performance ratio is probably one of the best out there, and if you crossfire down the road, you will basically have the same peformance as a single HD5870.

You can always look at Corsair's HX/TX lineup for PSU's. Something around 650w should suffice (even if planning on going crossfire later).
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post #10 of 30
For a gaming rig you need to decide on the gaming card as a starting point, because it sets the tone for the whole rig, even your choice of power supply (if you're shaving costs).

If you do lean toward nVidia, take care to find anyone who actually uses that card on an AMD machine, because I have had no luck with any nVidia card on some of the AMD chipsets (not tried the 890 series yet).

Once you know the card, you can work backwards to see if you can "do" with under or over 600 watts PSU (kind of a price jump in that divider).

Don't go cheap on power. The Seasonic based 750's are in the $120 range, but you can find some 650's for $90 or so, but less than that should be a sale, not the full retail price range, unless you get really good research on multiple reviews. There are a few PSU's for less, and it depends on the balance of your power demands.

DDR2 can still save a small amount, but sometimes you need to save $10 or $20 on the build, and DDR2 has very similar upper level performance over DDR3 on AMD machines (only the Intel higher end boards have triple channel memory where DDR3 really jumps out).

However, most DDR2 boards are AM2+. That's not bad, just something to consider. The beauty of the AMD platform is that you can put AM3 chips into an AM2+ board.

If you get a BE chip (unlocked multiplier) you can more easily reach high overclocks (if / when you get to that) on cheaper boards. It takes a better board ( usually > $120 ) to sustain the high FSB's needed to get locked chips to their full potential, but the same overclock can be reached on, say, an couple of ASRock boards that are < $90 with good features.
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