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Case: CM690 II $90
Motherboard: To be decided, whatever can fit everything else that I want
need most help on picking motherboard
Bought:
Power Supply (PSU):
antec quattro 850w *already purchased* $87
Processor (CPU): amd phenom II x4 955 $169.99
CPU Cooler/Heatsink with Fan (HSF): whatever comes with cpu or $30 dollars budget ones
Memory (RAM): cheapest 4GB at the time of purchase. depends on motherboard ddr3 vs ddr2 $100
Hard Drive (HDD): 1.5 TB Samsung F2 ecogreen drive. *Already bought* $80.
Optical (Disc) Drive (CD/DVD/HD-DVD/BR): reuse from old computer
Video/Graphics Card (GPU): hd 5850
Wireless (802.11b/g/n) Network: the cheapest one $20-40
Monitor: 2xDell 2209WA <$300

1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming and general web browsing. sometimes documents and spreadsheet work also.
2) What's your budget? ~$1500. the cheaper the better. I can go to frys.
3) Where do you live? Zip code: 94704
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. listed above
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? dvd. cd drive, keyboard, mouse, printer. nothing important
6) Will you be overclocking? slightly
7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have? decided on monitor already
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC? June through July
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? Crossfire support
10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? Yes 64 bit windows 7


Need help picking motherboard and your opinion of my build.
Motherboard must have:
usb 3.0
native sata 6Gb/s
2 PCI express 2.0 slots (x16, x8)
4 ram slots(really don't want more to bring up the price)
MUST BE less than $150. I will not absolutely go any more than $150. Of course the cheaper the better.

Thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 13
hey there, and welcome to OCN

first off, thanks for making your post easy to read and understand, instead of being vague about budget and needs.

i'd swap the case, if you don't have a strong affinity for the CM690

as for the mobo, Fry's tends to have good deals for the CPU's which come free with a typically subpar mobo. i'd avoid them unless you can get a case from there and avoid shipping, or they have a particularly good deal.

that said, i'd go for the 790XTA UD4P ($118, $103 AR). the 790XT UD4P was a good board and so i don't see why this one should be any different.

the rest of the build looks good. i personally wouldn't have gone for 2 monitors and rather a single one, and spent the money on a better mobo and a 1055T, or a better set of peripherals... that, or changed the case like i said earlier, but, my priorites are different to yours, so take that with some salt - i'm nitpicking .

hope that helps and i hope you enjoy your stay here
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post #3 of 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by -iceblade^ View Post
i'd go for the 790XTA UD4P ($118, $103 AR). the 790XT UD4P was a good board and so i don't see why this one should be any different.
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Originally Posted by flexium View Post
Motherboard must have:
usb 3.0
native sata 6Gb/s
2 PCI express 2.0 slots (x16, x8)
4 ram slots(really don't want more to bring up the price)
MUST BE less than $150. I will not absolutely go any more than $150. Of course the cheaper the better.

Thanks in advance.
He's gona need at least a 890GX chipset to fulfill the usb 3.0 and sata requirements, since I don't believe the current 790FX or GX chipsets have them. I'd say go for this guy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128435, but there are other good ones.
    
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I agree you need a 8xx chipset in order to have native SATA 6GB/s, but it doesn't really have to be the 890FX; 890GX, 880 and 870 are just as good as long as they are coupled with the SB850.

There's a cheaper board that satisfies all the requirements for 95$: Asrock Extreme3
-usb 3.0
-native sata 6Gb/s
-2 PCI express 2.0 slots 1x16 or 2x8
-4 ram slots
-bonus: power, reset, reset CMOS buttons, core unlocker technology

Here's a review with a PhII 965, the testers seem quite enthusiastic about it.

Quote:
The Asrock 870 Extreme3 is all about value and at a little over $100 US there is plenty of that on offer. Those looking at upgrading to the AM3 platform that only require a single GPU solution, which I dare say is most of you, will find that the AMD 870 chipset meets all your demands. Currently it seems that the typical AMD 870 based motherboard is selling for around $110 US, which is exactly where the 870 Extreme3 fits in.
Along with the Asrock 870 Extreme3 we know of two other AMD 870 motherboards available at the same price, which includes the MSI 870A-G54 and Asus M4A87TD EVO. All three motherboards appear to be very similar in terms of features and all support core unlocking. It has to be said that the Asrock 870 Extreme3 is the most impressive looking board of the bunch, at least in our opinion.
Bottom line is, weather you like this motherboard or not, you need SB850 for native SATA III and there are options starting from 95$ up to a ridiculous 300$.
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post #5 of 13
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Can you guys give me a quick run down between Asrock extreme 3 vs Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H?

I compared them on newegg but I am not sure why Gigabyte's mobo cost 30 more bucks. Other than integrated graphics?
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post #6 of 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -iceblade^ View Post
hey there, and welcome to OCN

first off, thanks for making your post easy to read and understand, instead of being vague about budget and needs.

i'd swap the case, if you don't have a strong affinity for the CM690

as for the mobo, Fry's tends to have good deals for the CPU's which come free with a typically subpar mobo. i'd avoid them unless you can get a case from there and avoid shipping, or they have a particularly good deal.

that said, i'd go for the 790XTA UD4P ($118, $103 AR). the 790XT UD4P was a good board and so i don't see why this one should be any different.

the rest of the build looks good. i personally wouldn't have gone for 2 monitors and rather a single one, and spent the money on a better mobo and a 1055T, or a better set of peripherals... that, or changed the case like i said earlier, but, my priorites are different to yours, so take that with some salt - i'm nitpicking .

hope that helps and i hope you enjoy your stay here


I visit head-fi quite often and I understand how much some newbs just say "I want the cheapest the best headphones" without doing any homework themselves.
I don't want to be like that and I want to make it easy for you guys to critique my build. I am glad that my effort is not in vain.
I am pretty sure I don't need hex-core.

Actually, I found out the best place to ship is amazon because CA tax kills a lot of good deals on newegg and other places.

Your board support sata 6Gb/s but not natively. Does this affect the speed say when I get an ssd?

I don't understand how the features of motherboards are so similar to one another, yet priced quite differently(ie 90 to 300)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flexium View Post
I visit head-fi quite often and I understand how much some newbs just say "I want the cheapest the best headphones" without doing any homework themselves.
I don't want to be like that and I want to make it easy for you guys to critique my build. I am glad that my effort is not in vain.
I am pretty sure I don't need hex-core.

Actually, I found out the best place to ship is amazon because CA tax kills a lot of good deals on newegg and other places.

Your board support sata 6Gb/s but not natively. Does this affect the speed say when I get an ssd?

I don't understand how the features of motherboards are so similar to one another, yet priced quite differently(ie 90 to 300)
Its mostly the different slots, ports, cooling, little bonus features and overclockability.

Example:
Evga Classified has 7 pci-e slots and can do 4 way sli + is one of the best overclocking boards, but it costs $430.

On the other hand

You can get away with an asrock extreme x58 for around $100 and still be alright, just dont have all the bells and whistles.

Other websites to consider are

our marketplace
tigerdirect
buy.com
ebay
ewiz
mwave
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this one is bargain and had what you want excellent board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128443
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I saw in for sale section that the Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H is selling for $115 shipped and $135 for 955 BE. Are those good deals? Should I buy them?
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post #10 of 13
$135 for a 955 is good, especially if it's proven.

as for the mobo, Hardware Canucks had good words to say about it. looks like a solid choice
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