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I used to have a 550W PSU in my sig rig running a 7600GT. Upgraded to the 4980 and got a Corsair 650TX.

Ive got a 600VA UPS connected to the computer, I get some random power blinks. With the 550W PSU, I used to get about 10-15 minutes backup, I had all my network peripherals attacked to the UPS too.

Since Ive upgraded, my UPS doesn't work, every-time the power goes the UPS just turns off, no limited backup power etc, just turns off. Works fine when the Computer is off but with the computer turned on, the UPS doesn't work. Just the CPU, monitor and network stuff work fine on the backup power.

Was going to upgrade to a 1KVA UPS so called the dude we buy all our backup power stuff from. Now hes trying to convince me to buy this Delta 1KVA UPS that costs like $350, Im guessing its a higher capacity one that can run multiple systems etc but he's insisting thats what I need. My old UPS cost about $80.

Basically what I need is for someone to gimme an approximate the prices of a 1VKA UPS from a manufacturer like Delta that can give my sig rig about 15-20 minutes of backup.
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post #2 of 10
The issue is that your only has a simulated sine wave, which with an active pfc power supply can result in the power supply just turning off.
post #3 of 10
Wouldn't a 600 VA UPS only push about 340 W? Just judging by this one here.

Not sure how it ran before! I've been in the market for a UPS and was told I would need at least what my PC pulls when idle and i7 920 is in c1 state.

This is what I was looking at. I'll probably wait and get the 810 W one.

good luck!
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The issue is that your only has a simulated sine wave, which with an active pfc power supply can result in the power supply just turning off.
Please explain in detail.


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Originally Posted by abbazaba View Post
Wouldn't a 600 VA UPS only push about 340 W? Just judging by this one here.

Not sure how it ran before! I've been in the market for a UPS and was told I would need at least what my PC pulls when idle and i7 920 is in c1 state.

This is what I was looking at. I'll probably wait and get the 810 W one.

good luck!
Hmm I figured the power of a UPS was determined by the VA rating, since P=VI so a 600VA UPS would be rated at 600W. Dunno if it applies to a UPS though.
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post #5 of 10
I don't know much about the subject and I'm taking this from jonnyguru so. With that being said. There is something about the how an ups does the sine-waves. If it is simulated for some reason it tends to shut a psu with active pfc down instead of keeping it up and running.
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I don't know much about the subject and I'm taking this from jonnyguru so. With that being said. There is something about the how an ups does the sine-waves. If it is simulated for some reason it tends to shut a psu with active pfc down instead of keeping it up and running.
Hm.. Dont think that applies here.
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post #7 of 10
It might, did your old psu have APFC? The 650TX does.
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It might, did your old psu have APFC? The 650TX does.
It isnt.
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post #9 of 10
Since your old one didn't have AFPC what I said could be the issue.
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Ignoring that possibility, can someone link me a UPS that will give my sig rig ~20 minutes of backup.
Thanks
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