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It wouldn't restict me if I got it is said 'Would NOT upgrading to DDR3 memory restrict me somewhat though in the future?' xD sorry if i confused you. So better to get a DDR3 mobo then? And no PEZ i don't, i've been through it many a time and cannot find anything. :/
Oh, alright, I just misunderstood. That really sucks :/. In that case, yes, go for a new board and even upgrade that RAM.
 
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It wouldn't restict me if I got it is said 'Would NOT upgrading to DDR3 memory restrict me somewhat though in the future?' xD sorry if i confused you. So better to get a DDR3 mobo then? And no PEZ i don't, i've been through it many a time and cannot find anything. :/
OK.

Yes, going DDR3 would be a benefit, so if you can afford it, the Gigabyte board is a much better choice than the ASUS.

I also find that the Ultra-Durable 3 features of the Gigabyte mainboards make them solid overclockers.
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Hi people

Yesterday i got my new Q9400 quad core cpu to upgrade my e6320. I needed it to play games on full graphics cos my old one was bottlenecking the GPU somewhat. I now experience much less bottleneck but i still want to OC this cpu(Q9400). However i can't seem to overclock it by even 10 mhz even when at stock voltages or increased. My mobo is a Abit AB9 Quad GT and the cpu is compatible but it was only compatible after the last bios update (1.7) whether this would prevent overclocking because its not been tested properly on this board I duno. Any suggestions? I also have 4GB of Kingston Value Ram DDR2 800 and a 850W corsair PSU. Any help appreciated

Cheers guys
dont know about ur MB but maybe ur hiting fsb limit even at stock speed.
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Yer I think I will save up and get a DDR3 mobo and quite possibly the gigabyte one, does anyone else have any suggestions of which DDR3 board to get so that I can have a choice (no offense lonewolf ).

And boyka do you really think I could be hitting the FSB limit because everyone else seems to have got their Q9400 to atleast 3.0Ghz :/ or could I just be really unlucky?
    
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No offense taken.

As much as I like Gigabyte boards, I'd have recommended others as well, if I could find a P45-chipset mainboard with two PCIe x16 slots. That and the ASUS were the only ones still selling at NewEgg, who is usually a pretty good barometer of what is available on the market. The market is just getting tight --I hate to say it, but at this point, if I wanted a budget overclocker, I'd probably go with a Core i3 chip rather than something Socket 775, if I was starting from scratch.

Note that Gigabyte is also one of a small number of manufacturers who actually implemented DDR3 with the P45 chipset --the majority of Socket 775 boards are DDR2.

There is an DDR2-based nForce 750i chipet board remaining on the market, the ASUS P5N-D but I'm not a huge fan of nForce chipsets at this point. They're okay, IMO, but Intel's P45 is better, especially its SATA controllers.

You could always go on ebid.com (UK-based online auction site) or Ebay, and find a used board. If so, I'd probably look at the following:

Gigabyte EP45-UD3P (DDR2) or EP45T-UD3P (DDR3) (same board other than RAM support)
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R (DDR2) or EP45T-UD3R (DDR3 (similar to the UD3P but one PCIe x16 slot)
MSI P45 Platinum (DDR2) -note, the Gigabyte will probably be a bit easier when overclocking than MSI
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe (DDR3)
ASUS Maximus II Formula (DDR2)
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Okay thanks alot for the help Lonewolf I appreciate it I think I will go for a DDR2 board and get some decent RAM because by the time I next upgrade my mobo i think DDR4 will be out so there is not much point in splashing out the extra dosh for a more expensive DDR3 board and buying more expensive RAM. And I ahev another problem most of the good Asus P45 boards are Crossfire and I need SLI. And I am undeer the impression that you cannot run SLI on a crossfire board. What is your opinion on this board? (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX)
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If your overclock settings aren't sticking you need a cmos clear. take out the battery and unplug the power, and hold the power button for 10 seconds. replace battery and power plug, boot up and try again.
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Yes, going DDR3 would be a benefit...
Will benefit if using a P55 or X58 mobo...There is no advantage if using a LGA775 mobo. The memory controller in the LGA775 chipsets does not take full advantage of the ddr3 memory. It is explained more if you read this
XbitLabs: DDR3 In LGA775 Systems. Using the LGA775 mobo, DDR3 memory will allow a 1:1 ratio with higher OC's but that does necessarily result in better memory performance. If there is, you will not be able to tell the difference. This is very true because I was using a 790i Ultra with my Q9400 OC'ed to 3.8GHz (1900MHz) with a 1:1 cpu/memory ratio. Now, I'm using my 750i mobo with the same Q9400 with a ddr2 memory speed of 1000MHz which result in a 5:6 cpu/memory ratio and I can honestly say there was hardly a difference in memory performance.

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What is your opinion on this bo
ard? (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX)
Check out these reviews for the ASUS Striker II Formula:
1. OverClockersClub review
2. Bit-Tech review
3. OverClock.net review
4. HotHardWare review
5. Anandtech review

This should be enough reviews to justify your desire for this mobo
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Will benefit if using a P55 or X58 mobo...There is no advantage if using a LGA775 mobo.
]I should clarify --I didn't mean a performance benefit. I meant, a benefit as in it would migrate to a Socket 1156 mainboard later.

I don't think there's much in the way of a performance boost at all.
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Yes i was thinking the same thing lonewolf. I didn't want a performance benefit just RAM that allowed me to move it to a socket 1156 in the future and get a new i7 processor or whatever is out then.

Cheers drblahman for the review links. I'm still not quite sure though,maybe you guys can answer, do I need an N-force chipset in order to use SLI? or are there any Intel chipsets that support it?
Edited by kempster456 - 6/13/10 at 1:09pm
    
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