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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
I highly doubt Apple invests in basic material research and development.

They selected this glass from a supplier.

Maybe? They are a fairly large company and could influence R&D research at their suppliers. However you're correct in that they don't do the R&D of the materials themselves, that would be silly. It's not their core area of expertise.


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If you either watched the video I quoted, or the conversation that video was a response to, you'd notice that Im NOT talking about general cases but one specific one.

And when is a surface ever perfectly flat? Your wood floors in your house? Ok, because Im really afraid of breaking my phone on that.
Try city streets or sidewalks, rocks (like in the video), ect. That is where people drop their phones the most and have them break the most. Hell today I dropped my phone down some stairs earlier this morning and I'll tell you right now - it didn't matter what geometrically designed case was on it, the screen was going to get hit.

Even the one Im specifically talking about, the video, (which you took as me talking about all cases) the representative himself dropped the phone and it didnt land on the walkway like he thought. It landed on the damn rocks. He even says something like - it went face down, we might have a problem. Twice it happened. Now while the device is still functional, you cant tell in that video what the screen looks like. Unless you properly protect your device, having just bumper guards isn't going to protect the screen in most situations. You need screen protectors. But even then, if enough pressure/force applied and it's going to break no matter what.
Actually you'd be wrong about the stairs, falling down a flight of stairs, the phone would contact the outer raised portion of the case and not the glass screen directly. It would be physically impossible for it to hit the glass without compressing the silicon gel.

But you're right, a lot of surfaces in which you have to worry about are not perfectly flat and if the uneven feature contacts the glass screen directly with sufficient force, you can say bye-bye to your new phone. Fact of the matter is though that these cases significantly reduce the chance of damage from regular falls, they are not totally useless as you imply.

Also, if by screen protectors you are referring to those thin film screens, they don't do much, they are mainly to prevent scratching. However the material Apple uses for the iPhone screen is fairly hard and scratch resistant as is which makes them unnecessary.
Edited by vdek - 6/10/10 at 11:34am
post #52 of 95
If I drop a Nokia 3310 from 3.5 feet 3 times I won't notice a thing, if I were to drop my new samsung, it would probably break after 2-3 times as well.

That's the way a lot of phones are made these days, deal with it.
Edited by Xenthos - 6/10/10 at 11:29am
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from personal experience i'd say iPod Classics are quite durable...dropped mine from 4-5 feet a few times, slipped off my lap countless times, and has been drool toy for babies plenty of times. Wish it was waterproof though :\\
    
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Ive dropped my 3GS like a billion times. =/ No screen problems, but the sides/corners are starting to get a little beat up. By the time the 4GS comes out, it'll be time for a new phone. This time I'm gonna make sure I get a case for it (I hate cases). God knows I don't want any children. Er
    
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Actually you'd be wrong about the stairs, falling down a flight of stairs, the phone would contact the outer raised portion of the case and not the glass screen directly. It would be physically impossible for it to hit the glass without compressing the silicon gel.

Now that I mulled it over, true, until it hits something that isn't necessarily the stairs. Not to mention, enough tumbling and it doesnt matter what kind of gel it has.

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But you're right, a lot of surfaces in which you have to worry about are not perfectly flat and if the uneven feature contacts the glass screen directly with sufficient force, you can say bye-bye to your new phone. Fact of the matter is though that these cases significantly reduce the chance of damage from regular falls, they are not totally useless as you imply.
I never implied they are totally useless. Anywhere. Look back. Im specifically talking about the back and front. Clearly, if the device hits something on its edge - it's going to protect it fairly well.

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Also, if by screen protectors you are referring to those thin film screens, they don't do much, they are mainly to prevent scratching. However the material Apple uses for the iPhone screen is fairly hard and scratch resistant as is which makes them unnecessary.
And I mentioned that they aren't going to do much if enough force is applied but when you have something like, say the Invisible Shield, then you've got more then just scratch resistance. The only way you're breaking that screen is if you hit it directly with enough force or drop it from a high height. Simply dropping it out of your pocket won't break the screen if you have something like the Shield.

And you make it seem like the current iPhone screens are scratch resistant. Not at all. A day after I got my 3GS, went to school, and it had plenty of scratches. A large noticeable one particularly on the screen. It's because I had the 3GS in my pocket along with my pens, keys, and change of which I was constantly taking out. If it was scratch resistant as you say it is, then that wouldn't have been the case. Only until after I got my full body coverage of the phone can I say it was really scratch resistant.
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How did they break it? They don't actually mention how they performed their test.

I had dropped my 1st Gen iPhone a few dozen times before the screen finally cracked on it.

Regardless, any screen will crack if you try hard enough. Plastic screens tend to have better impact resistance, however they scratch really easily due to the lack of hardness and don't feel as good on a touch interface(last point is imo).

Unfortunately there is no magic material which has sufficient hardness to resist the formation of scratches by common materials and which also has enough toughness to avoid fracturing under common shocks(Such as falling 6ft onto pavement). Usually materials which are hard tend to be brittle (easily fractured) and materials which are ductile tend to be soft(easily scratched).
Excellent show of ignorance there, champ. The "magic material" you speak of exists; it's called gorilla glass, and a bunch af android phones already sport it.
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I still want it
I deeply enjoying buying year old technology as well... The only thing this phone did was merge the best features of android and webos with the familiarity of the iphone series.

In 10 years were going to look back and call it a fad... just like pogs.
    
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My kids have dropped my iPhone 2g several hundred times and the aluminum on the back is the only thing damaged, and it's been dropped and thrown a lot. They use it as an iPod touch. I dropped my 3G several times too and the screen never broke from that. My wife's 3G broke when one of the kids dropped it on a rock then I stepped on it.
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