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Hello, guys

After building an I7 system recently for a friend I now may build another one for another friend. And this time I should be able to get myself a new system too. So I would love to know what you think about this choice of the components. Please consider that we are both on a budget (CHF 1400 ~ $1400 for his and $1600 for my system). All the components will be bought from this online retailer Digitec Online Retailer to save mailing costs and it has proven to be reliable.

Here are the specs.


Budget Friends RIG $1400/ My RIG $1600


Friends Rig


Main area of use: HD movies, 3D renders, light Photoshop use, some gaming (but would love not to worry about specs)

Motherboard_________ASUS M4A89GTD Pro__________CHF 196
CPU________________AMD Phenom II X6 1055T______CHF 249
RAM________________Mushkin Stiletto 2x2GB, DDR3-1333, CL7-7-7-20@1.5V_CHF 149

GPU________________Sapphire HD 5850_____CHF 379
HDD________________Samsung HD103SJ, F3, 1TB_____CHF 99
PSU________________Corsair CMPSU-TX750___________CHF 179
Case________________Cooler Master 690 II Advanced___CHF 120
DVD/CD drive_________LG GH22LS, 22x DVD±R LS_____CHF 39



My RIG

Main area of use: 3D renders and Photoshop, Gaming, 3D CFD simulations, hd movies, programming

Motherboard_________Asus M4A89GTD Pro__________CHF 196
CPU________________AMD Phenom II X6 1055T_____CHF 249
RAM________________Mushkin Stiletto 2x2GB, DDR3-1333, CL7-7-7-20@1.5V_CHF 149

GPU_________________Sapphire Vapor-X HD 5850_____________CHF 399
HDD_________________Samsung HD103SJ, F3, 1TB____________CHF 99
PSU_________________Corsair CMPSU-TX750_________________CHF 179
Case_________________Cooler Master ATCS 840 black__________CHF 239
DVD/CD drive__________LG GH22LS, 22x DVD±R LS_____________CHF 39
Soundcard____________Asus Xonar DX/XD, 7.1_____CHF 83
Headset + Mic_________Sennheiser HD 555 / Zalman ZM-MIC1 _____CHF 150

Mousepad_____________Razer Goliathus Speed Edition


The friends system will be let at stock settings (no OC ) so the default AMD cooler should do the job.
For my part, I would like to have an aftermarket cooler even though I am not going to overclock immediately. Reading the reviews I realized, that coolers performing best with Intel setups aren't always the optimal choice for AMD CPUs. Right now I am interested in the Xigmatech Dark Knight but would like to hear your opinions. The price for the cooler shouldn't exceed 50$ (but once again, prices here are quite different).

There might be an upgrade to 8GB RAM but this is not sure at the moment. My knowledge about RAM modules is also very limited so any help would be very much appreciated. A long warranty (>10years) is desirable.
I will also probably have to test the mic first before bying the headphones as I would have to buy a headset otherwise.

Thanks in advance for your help and efforts,

GreenStone
Edited by GreenStone - 6/10/10 at 9:42am
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Quote:
Motherboard_________ASUS M4A89GTD Pro
CPU________________AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
RAM________________Mushkin Stiletto 2x2GB, DDR3-1333, CL7-7-7-20@1.5V

GPU________________Sapphire HD 5850
HDD________________Samsung HD103SJ, F3, 1TB
PSU________________Corsair CMPSU-TX750
Case________________Cooler Master 690 II Advanced
DVD/CD drive_________LG GH22LS, 22x DVD±R LS
Dont see how you made this cost so much, but it would be good if you put the price for each component next to it.

that build should be around 1200$..

Quote:
Motherboard_________Asus M4A89GTD Pro
CPU________________AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
RAM________________Mushkin Stiletto 2x2GB, DDR3-1333, CL7-7-7-20@1.5V

GPU_________________Sapphire Vapor-X HD 5850
HDD_________________Samsung HD103SJ, F3, 1TB
PSU_________________Corsair CMPSU-TX750
Case_________________Cooler Master ATCS 840 black
DVD/CD drive__________LG GH22LS, 22x DVD±R LS
Soundcard____________Asus Xonar DX/XD, 7.1
Headset + Mic_________Sennheiser HD 555 / Zalman ZM-MIC1

Mousepad_____________Razer Goliathus Speed Edition
This build seems overpriced too.

if i had prices I could work with you some to get a better build..
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I've added the prices. This builds may be overpriced in the US but here in Switzerland the cost of electronic components is generally higher.
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Firstly, about your consideration regarding going for 8GB of RAM, you have to ask yourself whether you are really going to be using 8GB of RAM. Only if you are involved in RAM intensive applications will you actually see a substantial performance increase, otherwise the boost in performance would be minimal.

I'd actually not recommend the Corsair TX-750. Don't get me wrong, it's a solid PSU, but normally you should be able to find something like the Antec TP-750 which gives better performance. Also, it's semi-modular. In the US, you can find it for $10 more, not sure whether you can get it in Switzerland at this kind of price.

Also, you might want to consider two Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB HDD's in RAID0 instead of a single F3 1TB HDD. This would provide much better performance...albeit a slightly higher cost.

For $50 EXCLUDING the fans you'll probably need for the heatsink (normal stock fans on the heatsink normally suck ), the Dark Knight is pretty good. Also consider the Scythe Mungen 2 which is a cooler. See if you can find the Titan Fenrir too, also a great cooler.
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I think you should get a 1090t instead of the 1055t and get 4gb ram instead of 8.

i never use more than 4 and im running vista..
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post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies!

@Baldy

The prices shown above are both for 4GB RAM and it is my friend who actually considers it (even though I would be the one needing it with fluid simulations ^^). For him right now it is more a question of style "I've got 8GB RAM. Eat THAT!". Nevertheless, he is still considering it.

You are right, Antec TP 750 is a very good PSU and it is actually a little bit cheaper here than the Corsair TX 750W. The only thing that puts me off is the offered warranty. We get here 1 year warranty for the Antec unit (is it normal?) while the Corsair PSU offers 5 years. I really like the semi-modular approach of Antec but on the other hand a long term support I can count on is very important to me (both of us).
As for the RAID0 setup: I have no experience with it and wouldn't it mean only having 500GB storage space? Right now, I am packed with data and would really need the extra 1TB (juggling every single byte is no fun). But RAID0 is definitely something I should consider...wonder when SSD will finally get cheaper.

Unfortunately, Titan Fenrir (I've heard great things about it too) isn't available here. But Scythe Mugen 2 is. I will look for some benchmarks comparing the Dark Knight and the Mugen.

@maxhudson

As mentioned earlier, the prices are for 4GB RAM so the 1090T will only increase the total price.
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Any help with the RAM would be great as I don't want to get incompatible modules...
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Samsung 830 128GB Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB Western Digital Green LG GH22LS 
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