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Is my motherboard bad?

post #1 of 25
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I put my first new build together last week, plugged it in and nothing. I traced the problem to the power switch jumper plug. I have to use a bent paper clip to start up my computer. Then I could not get a signal to my monitor with either the DVI or the VGA through my graphics card. All the fans run, my hard drive starts, but no video signal.

I took everything back out (except the CPU), reinserted my memory, and the SATA plug to the hard-drive. I then plugged only the 24-pin power, the 4-pin CPU power, and the SATA power to the PSU, and then plugged the VGA connector directly to my mobo. The HDD kicks on and the CPU fan runs, but still no video signal. Tried the DVI plug and still get nothing.

I know the monitor works because I used it on another computer. Is my motherboard defective? This is what I have:

AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego
MSI RS482M4-ILD (ATI RS482 + SB450)
Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2PT (512 x 2)
HIS Radeon X850XT
WD 74GB Raptor 10,000 RPM SATA150
Antec Neo Power HE 550W
Thermaltake CL-P0200 CPU fan
all stuffed in a Q-pack (and I mean STUFFED)
and a 19" Rosewill LCD monitor
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Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego MSI RS482M4-ILD Windows XP home edition 19" Rosewill R912E LCD 
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post #2 of 25
A few of my buddies have had this problem on their first build. All i ask them is if they used the CPU retention lever to install it? i know that if the CPU is just resting on the socket, or just being forced onto the pinlocks it will start, just give you no signal. take off your heatsink and fan and make sure you lift the lever all the way up so that it just drops into place and is super snug, then lower the lever into its closed position. If you still get the problem leave it on for a bit, sometimes it takes a while for the motherboard to find where the monitor signal needs to be. Also try using the built in VGA if you have any and make sure your CPU has no bent or broken pins! thats about all i can think of, i hope it helps!
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post #3 of 25
Set it up out side the case on a phone book
Use only the necessary power to MB ... 24 pin 4 pin.
1 RAM stick
CPU w/FHS ... incerted, locked down and the FHS plugged in.
Any vid card... even an old PCI to test if necessary
To start it up jump the 2 pins used for the case On/Off switch.
If ti goes then ... you have to add components to find the bad one. No bad components... check the case stand offs or towers that you screw the MB to. Are they correctly configured, do you have an extra one that is not used? Remove the extra one if there is one... it will ground out the MB!
    
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X4 965 ASUS M4A79 Deluxe 9800GTx2 2x2G OCZ Reapers 
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500G WD Black LiteOn CD/DVD R/W Win7 64 22'' ws Acer AL2223W 
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post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
I checked out the pins on the processor, and reinserted it. It dropped into place and I push down on it while I closed the lever. Everything looks good with the CPU. I put my heatsink back on and plugged the fan in. Oh, and I also checked the stand-offs.

Then, leaving the motherboard out on the table, I reinserted only one stick of RAM (in the #1 slot) and plugged the monitor to the motherboard VGA port. I plugged in the 24 pin and the 4 pin power only then started it up with the paperclip. I let it run for a half hour. The CPU fan runs, but still no video signal.

I even cleared my CMOS and tested the battery (it is weak, by the way). Man, I'm getting desperate! Is there anything else you guys can think of?
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post #5 of 25
Now listen, it's not a CPU problem because normally even without a CPU, the computer could boot, and would just hang up on POST saying something like unproper hardware configuration. On my motherboard, there was a little card called C19, which I flipped for SLI, if you have a card like this between your 2 PCI-e 16 slots, make sure it is set on normal mode.... but not SLI OF COURSE IF YOU HAVE A SLI READY MOTHERBOARD. Make sure you have nothing that would set it for Multi-GPU, make sure it is correctly set into the PCI-e 16 slot, check if the fans on the heatsink spins on the GPU, if they don't, either your GPU is not well plugged in or the PCI-e 16 is deffective. If it turns, then make sure the cable you are using is working. If none of these work, or if your tests fails, maybe you have a damaged GPU and stop trying to use it because it could only damage your GPU. Make sure your Power Supply is giving sufficient power not only to the motherboard but to THE GPU DIRECTLY 2. Mine required a really specifiq config.
    
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Samsung SM961 1TB NVMe + 1TB Samsung 840 Evo External Asus drive 2x MCP655 in independent loops Windows 7 Pro 64-bit 
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Samsung SM961 1TB NVMe + 1TB Samsung 840 Evo External Asus drive 2x MCP655 in independent loops Windows 7 Pro 64-bit 
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post #6 of 25
you do have the power connector connected to the x850, correct ?
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post #7 of 25
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I took all of that out, and my motherboard is sitting on my kitchen table. I even took the motherboard off the removable tray. All I have hooked up now is:

1) one stick of 512 RAM
2) the CPU and heatsink/fan
3) monitor hooked up directly through the onboard graphics
4) the modular PSU with nothing but the attached 24 pin and 4 pin

I start it up with the power switch jumper pins on the motherboard. The heatsink fan runs, but no video signal.

Can I try to run it without the CPU?
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CPUMotherboardOSMonitor
Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego MSI RS482M4-ILD Windows XP home edition 19" Rosewill R912E LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech cordless 550 watts Antec Neo HE550 Aspire X-Qpack Logitech cordless 
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CPUMotherboardOSMonitor
Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego MSI RS482M4-ILD Windows XP home edition 19" Rosewill R912E LCD 
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Logitech cordless 550 watts Antec Neo HE550 Aspire X-Qpack Logitech cordless 
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post #8 of 25
Please, Please go to the user CP at the top and fill out your system specs.

This will help us to help you

It would help to have a speaker connected to the speaker connection on the mobo. Any post beeps would help isolate the problem
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Athlon 64 +3700 Sandy E6 DFI LanParty UT nF4 U-D WinXp SP2 Samsung 19" LCD FP 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 OCZ Modstream 520W Thermaltake Shark Logitech G5 Laser 
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Athlon 64 +3700 Sandy E6 DFI LanParty UT nF4 U-D WinXp SP2 Samsung 19" LCD FP 
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Logitech G15 OCZ Modstream 520W Thermaltake Shark Logitech G5 Laser 
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post #9 of 25
Thread Starter 
Sorry. I have yet to get it running, so I just listed it at the beginning of this thread.

I went to the MSI website and found I had tried everything they suggest for a "no post" except updating the bios with a recovery floppy. Maybe I'll try that.

Maybe if I tried the RAM in a different DIMM slot on the mobo?

Could it be that both sticks of memory are bad? I tried each separately.

The only good computer I could try them on is this one, and I need it to talk to you guys. Plus, this is my girlfriend's Dell and she would kill me if I opened it up.
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Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego MSI RS482M4-ILD Windows XP home edition 19" Rosewill R912E LCD 
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Logitech cordless 550 watts Antec Neo HE550 Aspire X-Qpack Logitech cordless 
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Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego MSI RS482M4-ILD Windows XP home edition 19" Rosewill R912E LCD 
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Logitech cordless 550 watts Antec Neo HE550 Aspire X-Qpack Logitech cordless 
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post #10 of 25
try movin the rams around, and try different combinations, this has worked for me in the past
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250gb sata 2 + 160gb slave WD's sony DVD+/-rw and a CD r/w WINDOWS XP PRO SP2 17" philips + 19" xerox 
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250gb sata 2 + 160gb slave WD's sony DVD+/-rw and a CD r/w WINDOWS XP PRO SP2 17" philips + 19" xerox 
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Microsoft-multimedia tagan 580w modular thermaltake kandalf logitech cordless 
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