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This thread is funny. It's like a bunch of people had bad tech stuff happen to them, which happens on a daily basis elsewhere in the world.

And because this was posted, they link it to this.

You dream random crap every night, then one night you dream your buddy broke his leg, and the next morning you find out he broke his arm. Must be a divine message.


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On a side note, why would the maximum of an 11-year cycle be in 2012 if the minimum is around 2010? Is that a typo in the article...?
The maximum is probably at the beginning of the cycle and the minimum at the end. It spikes, then it slowly dies down until the minimum is reached, then spikes again. That's purely what I understood of the article, though.
Edited by Coma - 6/13/10 at 9:05am
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Galactic alignments are what I think they are, they align in an astrological sense not in an astronomical sense. Get off your tarot cards and check real astronomy some day. If you really wanted to scream 'GALACTIC ALIGNMENT OMG!' you would know that according to those wacky galactic alignment scientists, we have already passed the 'center' of the so-called 'dark rift' alignment.
So google maps based in the center of the galaxy has us on Planetary Position Sensors and knows we have passed the alignment rift. The moon is 1/4 the size of the earth and it's CG is inside the earth. The earth and moon wooble around while orbiting the sun. The sun moves long some undetermined number of coagulated spokes of solar systems and stars in a sinusoidal movement around the center of the galaxy. The galaxies could move around larger galaxies in some undetermined fashion. One thing is certain our solar system moves fast enough around the center of galaxy to achieve sinusoidal movement because it's close enough to the speed of light to push it into particle-wave motion. The earth and moon simulate particle wave motion at much lower velocities by being a coupled body that waves as it rotates around the sun.

There are no WACKY GALACTIC ALIGNMENT scientists. Astrologers discovered the basics of astronomy. They developed the basics of geometry. Their interpretation of things is suspect yes but the schism between astrology and astronomy is not a deep one. It begins and ends with astrology laying down ALL the basic fundamentals with astronomers going from pretending to know what it means from a conciousness or spiritual perspective to pretending to know how it all started and progressed scientifically. Both sciences went a bit too far on the cause and effect axis. Both are subject to thinking they know more than they do.

When thales who finally worked out the planetary motion was able to predict a lunar eclipse ahead of time it was only a matter of time before people stared leveraging that kind of "mysterious" understanding into all kinds of crazy.

Nobody knows for sure what this solar cycle will be like. But it's a fairly safe bet that it's going to suck. You know the right hand rule of electromagentic properities. If you take your right hand and flow a current though a wire. Wrapping your hand around the wire and pointing the thumb in the direction of the current flow your hand models the magenetic field it produces. There's evidence of polar shift in sedimentary layers with no way to determine specific periodicities. It's somewhat random. Now the earth spins one way which causes relative motion of core and magma and crust layers. If the poles shift and the earth spins the same way then how does that fit with the right hand rule? Either the earth has to stop and spin the opposite way after a polar shift or there has to be evidence that having the north magnetic pole and north geographic pole is much prefered. With shifted periods being far shorter and the magnetic field being far less stable as motion effect on the field goes to directly destabilizing and not supporting the magnetic field. That evidence doesn't exist in the rock layers.

Like a roller bearing where you move the inner race relative to the outer race the core seems to me to flip with the oozy liquid, but still quite viscous, magma layer being the bearing material. Or more to the point there's a layer of almost pure liquid gold just outside the core. That is probably the bearing material and it probably slides about as good as any high pressure liquid metal can slide. It makes sense to me and doesn't come from crazy. Just logic. Probably makes for a heck of a earthquake and popping volcano event while it happens. Will it happen on 2012 or before. Don't know. If it does happen and my mind understands it, that won't keep buildings from falling on me but at least I'll know what is up.
Edited by Hephasteus - 6/13/10 at 10:37am
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2012... Fear it.
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So 2012 is here. Cool I'll just go and commit every sin before dying. Whos with me?
If sin was a real thing
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The Earths magnoshpere is far from fine we have a huge hole in it. Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field Discovered This means when the annuale giant solar storm that occurs every 150 years hits expect alot of fried electronics on Earth. Also anyone that has read anything about the Mayans knows they never predicted the end of the world.
I never said pole shifts do not happen.

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British Geological Survey Magnetic reversal is, in fact... a fact.
I'm not saying that one will happen in 2012, but you should check your facts before dismissing actual science.
Again, I never said pole shifts haven't happened. You should check the post you read a second time to be sure you're not accusing someone of something completely unfounded. I'm completely aware that scientists believe that there have been pole shifts in the past, though many millions of years ago. You sir, need to check your facts on posts you quote.

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So google maps based in the center of the galaxy has us on Planetary Position Sensors and knows we have passed the alignment rift. The moon is 1/4 the size of the earth and it's CG is inside the earth. The earth and moon wooble around while orbiting the sun. The sun moves long some undetermined number of coagulated spokes of solar systems and stars in a sinusoidal movement around the center of the galaxy. The galaxies could move around larger galaxies in some undetermined fashion. One thing is certain our solar system moves fast enough around the center of galaxy to achieve sinusoidal movement because it's close enough to the speed of light to push it into particle-wave motion. The earth and moon simulate particle wave motion at much lower velocities by being a coupled body that waves as it rotates around the sun.

There are no WACKY GALACTIC ALIGNMENT scientists. Astrologers discovered the basics of astronomy. They developed the basics of geometry. Their interpretation of things is suspect yes but the schism between astrology and astronomy is not a deep one. It begins and ends with astrology laying down ALL the basic fundamentals with astronomers going from pretending to know what it means from a conciousness or spiritual perspective to pretending to know how it all started and progressed scientifically. Both sciences went a bit too far on the cause and effect axis. Both are subject to thinking they know more than they do.

When thales who finally worked out the planetary motion was able to predict a lunar eclipse ahead of time it was only a matter of time before people stared leveraging that kind of "mysterious" understanding into all kinds of crazy.

Nobody knows for sure what this solar cycle will be like. But it's a fairly safe bet that it's going to suck. You know the right hand rule of electromagentic properities. If you take your right hand and flow a current though a wire. Wrapping your hand around the wire and pointing the thumb in the direction of the current flow your hand models the magenetic field it produces. There's evidence of polar shift in sedimentary layers with no way to determine specific periodicities. It's somewhat random. Now the earth spins one way which causes relative motion of core and magma and crust layers. If the poles shift and the earth spins the same way then how does that fit with the right hand rule? Either the earth has to stop and spin the opposite way after a polar shift or there has to be evidence that having the north magnetic pole and north geographic pole is much prefered. With shifted periods being far shorter and the magnetic field being far less stable as motion effect on the field goes to directly destabilizing and not supporting the magnetic field. That evidence doesn't exist in the rock layers.

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Either you're trying to read some scientific journal and understand someone's theory on what's going to happen, or, you're trying to use science to make yourself sound smarter than you are. You are a not a scientist. You do not study deep earth sciences.

Yes, astrology founded the basis for modern astronomy. However if you compare technology and belief systems relevant to the periods each were used in (modern astronomy for only give/take 500 years), you find that astronomy holds much more clout over fictitious notions of astrological studies. Anyone can tell me that when the Moon is in the 12 hour and Saturn lies in Orion's constellation while Mars is on a charge towards Aries that my luck is going to be good today. Come on, get real. The truth to it is, what people deemed by astrology in ancient times actually happened to be more of the basis for astronomy's predictable planetary movements, including other visible things, like precession, the moon's transit and phases, the changing of seasons according to similar star patterns. The Mayans knew about precession, it's partly what their calendar became based off of.

Finally, once again, to all of you trying to shove me off course; like those who blindly follow faith to guide their lives, I believe there will not be a 'pole shift' in 2012. Many people have asked scientists and their overwhelming responses have been, "No, not likely in 2012". That's enough for me.

And on a truly more sophisticated note, how do you expect people to theorize without actual proof in theory over deep earth sciences when we've only been to the bottom of the Mariana Trench once?. We can't can't even get past the crust to let alone sample the mantle. Come on, don't be naive people. Wake up and smell the coffee.
    
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2012... Fear it.
Haha, well then we all might as well try to raise as much hell as possible before then. But there will be a whole lot of laughter when the sun rises on January 1st, 2013.
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Haha, well then we all might as well try to raise as much hell as possible before then. But there will be a whole lot of laughter when the sun rises on January 1st, 2013.
High levels of carbon and increased solar activity.

I won't laugh much of that.

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The maximum is probably at the beginning of the cycle and the minimum at the end. It spikes, then it slowly dies down until the minimum is reached, then spikes again. That's purely what I understood of the article, though.
That's the way it has to work if the article information is correct, but it isn't how natural cycles usually work. I find it very hard to believe this is any different.
Edited by stargate125645 - 6/13/10 at 3:53pm
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LOL @ sources. "Armageddon Online".

Besides, they are wrong. Next years solar flares are going to be weaker than usual.
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Hopefully this destroys all records of my student loan debt.
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