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as far as I know all those rendering programs are CPU intensive... maybe you'd be better going with more cores and RAM. If you don't need the GTX470, I'd say go with a 5770 or 5850... they'll keep you good for DX11 going forward... in terms of cheap CPU/RAM alternatives, I'd suggest looking at the 1055T (6 cores for ~$350ish) or possibly the SR-2 with 2x quad Xeons for a total of 8 cores, but you could cram 48GBs of RAM there... just suggestions...
The software he's using has plug-ins for GPU rendering.

3DSMax specifically has a plug-in called vray or metalray(Can't remember which one) thats GPU bound and is exponentially faster than CPU rendering.

Also, keep the GTX 470 as nVidia's software is just better in this regard.

You should join the "3DS Max club" here on OCN. Just visit the "Other Software" section in the software sub-forum and you'll run into that group. There are plenty of guys in that group that has experience with this stuff already.
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Correct, especially with Max which uses DirectX rather than OpenGL.

50GB might be a bit small for the SSD, I have a 80GB SSD with CS4 master suite, 3DS Max and some other stuff on and it is pushing over 50GB - I recently had to move my Steam install to my HDs because I wanted to install some more games.. other than that the build looks fine.
I could spend an extra $20 and get the 60GB version of the Vertex II. The 100GB version is just a bit out of my reach plus I since I play older games they don't take up that much space.

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The software he's using has plug-ins for GPU rendering.

3DSMax specifically has a plug-in called vray or metalray(Can't remember which one) thats GPU bound and is exponentially faster than CPU rendering.

Also, keep the GTX 470 as nVidia's software is just better in this regard.

You should join the "3DS Max club" here on OCN. Just visit the "Other Software" section in the software sub-forum and you'll run into that group. There are plenty of guys in that group that has experience with this stuff already.
Thanks, I will keep the GTX 470 as it just seems the most logical choice at the moment. Should I post this message into the sub-forum you mentioned or is that against the rules?
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The software he's using has plug-ins for GPU rendering.

3DSMax specifically has a plug-in called vray or metalray(Can't remember which one) thats GPU bound and is exponentially faster than CPU rendering.

Also, keep the GTX 470 as nVidia's software is just better in this regard.

You should join the "3DS Max club" here on OCN. Just visit the "Other Software" section in the software sub-forum and you'll run into that group. There are plenty of guys in that group that has experience with this stuff already.
Cool, thanks, I just remember the old blender farms, of Quad core boards... I never knew they added CUDA support
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A 6 core processor would help greatly for rendering. You'll need to water cool the MB to use the PCI-E x1 slots. An Asus sound card. Creative has major problems with drivers. Check the MBs Qualified Vendors List for memory. Other than that, it looks fine.
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as far as I know all those rendering programs are CPU intensive... maybe you'd be better going with more cores and RAM. If you don't need the GTX470, I'd say go with a 5770 or 5850... they'll keep you good for DX11 going forward... in terms of cheap CPU/RAM alternatives, I'd suggest looking at the 1055T (6 cores for ~$350ish) or possibly the SR-2 with 2x quad Xeons for a total of 8 cores, but you could cram 48GBs of RAM there... just suggestions...
hmmm no, the 1055t is way cheaper than that. you can get the 1090t for $300
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If you are into 3Dmax like me and CAD software - Dump the Video card and get more RAM and CPU - the program is heavy depended on those two - they do the Rendering - there is still no GPU rendering avaible for Max or Maya - it is planned for the Q2 2011 or later.
So you wouldn't need the extra cash for the Video - though i would recommend a Geforce or Good Ati with a weak GeForce for PhysX cause recently there was a release plug-in that allows the use of PhysX in 3Dmax. And consider a faster HDD for 3Dmax to turn to - i mead something like 1 SSD for OS + 2 raptors of 150GB for batch files and page files + 1TB for storage.

P.S. I7 is a good choice in the CPU - it is far better for Rendering though with 4 cores Max uses the threads which in this case are 8 and is more faster than the 6 core AMD in MAX particularly.
Edited by Vipervlv - 6/11/10 at 1:54am
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A 6 core processor would help greatly for rendering. You'll need to water cool the MB to use the PCI-E x1 slots. An Asus sound card. Creative has major problems with drivers. Check the MBs Qualified Vendors List for memory. Other than that, it looks fine.
A 6 core would be great but I'm afraid it is out of my budget. Could you please explain more about water cooling, is it really necessary? I am aware of Creative's bad rep, but I will be using quite a variety of music programs and from my understanding Creative has the best compatibility out of all the soundcard manufactures. The Fatal1ty seems like a solid product but I could pay an extra $20 and get the Asus Xonar Essence STX PCIE soundcard... is it worth it?
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A 6 core would be great but I'm afraid it is out of my budget. Could you please explain more about water cooling, is it really necessary? I am aware of Creative's bad rep, but I will be using quite a variety of music programs and from my understanding Creative has the best compatibility out of all the soundcard manufactures. The Fatal1ty seems like a solid product but I could pay an extra $20 and get the Asus Xonar Essence STX PCIE soundcard... is it worth it?
If you want to use the PCI-E x1 slots on that MB, you will have to use the EK water cooling block. The included heat pipes block both PCI-E x1 slots. Water cooling is your choice.
If you Google creative driver problems, you'll see that their drivers are no longer any good for the majority of their high end sound cards. I've owned what you want to buy and the drivers just plain sucked.
The Essence is virtual 7.1 and not actual 7.1.
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If you are into 3Dmax like me and CAD software - Dump the Video card and get more RAM and CPU - the program is heavy depended on those two - they do the Rendering - there is still no GPU rendering avaible for Max or Maya - it is planned for the Q2 2011 or later.
So you wouldn't need the extra cash for the Video - though i would recommend a Geforce or Good Ati with a weak GeForce for PhysX cause recently there was a release plug-in that allows the use of PhysX in 3Dmax. And consider a faster HDD for 3Dmax to turn to - i mead something like 1 SSD for OS + 2 raptors of 150GB for batch files and page files + 1TB for storage.

P.S. I7 is a good choice in the CPU - it is far better for Rendering though with 4 cores Max uses the threads which in this case are 8 and is more faster than the 6 core AMD in MAX particularly.
Thanks, a 960 would be great but I just can't justify the $400 price margin between it and the 930. Extra ram may be on the cards. Your HD advice is useful- I may just drop the 1TB and get a 300GB raptor (I have a 1TB external I can drop archive stuff on plus I only managed to fill 100GB on my old machine)

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If you want to use the PCI-E x1 slots on that MB, you will have to use the EK water cooling block. The included heat pipes block both PCI-E x1 slots. Water cooling is your choice.
If you Google creative driver problems, you'll see that their drivers are no longer any good for the majority of their high end sound cards. I've owned what you want to buy and the drivers just plain sucked.
The Essence is virtual 7.1 and not actual 7.1.
Have fun!
I'm guessing this is for the UD7... I'm now leaning towards the UD3R as I just don't really think the extras on the UD7 will be fully utilised in my scenario. Would this mobo need water cooling if I run the GTX 470 in the PCI-E x1 slot?
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I've had no problems with any of the Creative drivers that everyone else seems to have been experiencing.

Anyways, nice build. I just linked a friend here since he was looking for a similar build for similar uses.
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