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post #21 of 74
I bet MSI/Gigabyte/Asus... or some company will figure out how to add a couple of PCI slots without chipset support.
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The only problem I can see with completely removing the PCI bus is the poor adoption of PCIe 1x and 4x solutions from AIB manufacturers. It would be one thing if there bountiful options for AIB's like sound cards but a quick search on the egg returns only 10 or 11 results for sound cards based on the PCIe 1x lane. The price starts around $50 for a low level Sound Blaster Xi-Fi and then jumps to around $100 and then over $150 dollars. That isn't really a lot of options in the long run.

If manufacturers of AIB's began to adopt the PCIe 1x lane at a faster rate, then I could see no issue with removing the PCI bus.
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The New series will still only have only one 16x lane? Since P45 they have not changed it.
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post #24 of 74
oh. I thought they meant the PCIe bus.

/panic
post #25 of 74
Cougar Point? I'm there.

I'll miss PCI, because I still have some devices that require it, but it just means I'll have to build a legacy computer for them.
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post #26 of 74
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Originally Posted by chemicalfan View Post
I'd like another source on this, I can't see it happening to be honest. PCI-E x1 & x4 adoption has been poor, unlike when PCI came out to replace the ISA bus (when ISA died, it wasn't possible to even buy an ISA card, everything was PCI)
ISA didn't die for a long time. After PCI came out most boards had 3 isa slots and 4 pci slots for an entire generation then they had like 1 isa slot and 4 pci slots. Then when AGP came out they had 4 pci slots and 1 agp slot. Now that PCI-E is getting more lanes and boards having so many PCI-E slots there's not much need for pci any more.
The problem here is people thinking sandy bridge and bulldozer are consumer products. The first guy that says you gotta have sandy bridge for game x should probably be burnt at a stake. These both are going to need 4 memory modules to run. So you are going to have to lay down way too much cash just to get ram never mind what the processors and boards will cost. They will run like crap for years until compilers figure out what the heck to do with them.
The crap spew from people when these hit the market is going to be a sight to behold. Can't wait.
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post #27 of 74
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Originally Posted by corky dorkelson View Post
I am not OK with this.

The only thing that will make me feel better about this is DuckieHo giving me 3-4 really good reasons why I should be OK with it. Do your thing, Duck.
Why aren't you ok with this?


Intel removed IDE in the P35/X38 chipsets. Some manufacturers added 3rd party chips to provide the backwards functionality.

Good to see PCIe 2.0 on Cougar Point. That is a DMI 2.0 link as well.
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oh noes. Looks like I will have to upgrade my wireless card when I upgrade my computer next year.
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post #29 of 74
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ISA didn't die for a long time. After PCI came out most boards had 3 isa slots and 4 pci slots for an entire generation then they had like 1 isa slot and 4 pci slots. Then when AGP came out they had 4 pci slots and 1 agp slot. Now that PCI-E is getting more lanes and boards having so many PCI-E slots there's not much need for pci any more.
The problem here is people thinking sandy bridge and bulldozer are consumer products. The first guy that says you gotta have sandy bridge for game x should probably be burnt at a stake. These both are going to need 4 memory modules to run. So you are going to have to lay down way too much cash just to get ram never mind what the processors and boards will cost. They will run like crap for years until compilers figure out what the heck to do with them.
The crap spew from people when these hit the market is going to be a sight to behold. Can't wait.
PCI came out in 1993. ISA was basically out the door in 1997. PCI Express appeared in 2004. So basically PCI Express superseding PCI is about on the same time schedule as PCI superseding ISA. Though ISA came out 12 years before PCI it lived that long due to EISA.

Also, this does not effect me in any way. YAY!
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post #30 of 74
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post
The New series will still only have only one 16x lane? Since P45 they have not changed it.
This is the socket 1155 Sandybridges... they are the "mainstream" cpus ment to replace the current i3/i5/i7 8xxs. Socket 2011 will be the "enthusiest" Sandybridges with all the pci-e lanes, quad-channel ram, and up to 8 cores.

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The problem here is people thinking sandy bridge and bulldozer are consumer products. The first guy that says you gotta have sandy bridge for game x should probably be burnt at a stake. These both are going to need 4 memory modules to run.
LOL. The 1155 SBs are most assuredly consumer products. Although it'll take awhile before a Bloomfield or Gulftown is insufficient for gaming, you have to remember that not everyone is a gamer. For instance, these will come with AVX instructions (which is an extension for the SSE instructions) and will send floating-point performance through the roof.
And 1155 cpus will have dual-channel ram, so you only need two memory modules to run.
     
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