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Now im back to being undecided on this issue. So if 2 470s are only 40% better than a 480, it seems like i could OC the 480 to perform as well as two stock 470s. But to be honest I don't know if I will ever have the need to go sli with the 480. The way tech advances so fast, if you don't buy sli to begin with its not even worth doing I wouldn't think cause there is always something better just around the corner...

oh ya and the other problem is $550 is the max budget for this upgrade so i couldnt get 2 470s at the same time.
I'd say get a single 480 for now then, SLI later down the road. With the 400 series' scaling performance, I think 2x470's/480's will still be VERY much relevant within the next 2 years at least.

A 480, no matter how high you overclock it past, say, 30-40% you're going to hit a point of diminishing returns; sure, the high clock speeds will give you a bump, but the physical hardware limitations of just one GTX 480 (480 cores) vs 2x470's (996 cores) will never net you performance that's comparable to 2x470's (not to mention, 470's in SLI can be highly overclocked as well).

Stick to a single 480 for now, and since you're going to put it under water, you'll be able to at least give it a 25-30% OC; that alone will give you a HUGE bump, and you likely will not need to upgrade for quite a long while. By the time you'll need another 480 for SLI, the prices will have come down a bit, or maybe a dual-GPU version will be released and you might upgrade or step-up to that
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Now im back to being undecided on this issue. So if 2 470s are only 40% better than a 480, it seems like i could OC the 480 to perform as well as two stock 470s. But to be honest I don't know if I will ever have the need to go sli with the 480. The way tech advances so fast, if you don't buy sli to begin with its not even worth doing I wouldn't think cause there is always something better just around the corner...

oh ya and the other problem is $550 is the max budget for this upgrade so i couldnt get 2 470s at the same time.
If ur planning on watercooling, as stated in a previous post, then $550 will not cut it for even 1 480. Using the cheapest blocks u can find ur still looking at atleast $620 + shipping. From my experience I really like the koolance blocks, great build quality, great customer support, and all three of my 480s at 100% load never get over 60c just on a triple rad ooling them. If $550 is ur final budget then I would get a 470, watercool it, and overclock it with afterburner using the voltage tweaking software. U will have enormous headroom overclocking that card even with minimal heat dissipation ability. As a 480 user I cannot recommend a 470 over a 480, but nevertheless it is a great card.
 
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You buy a GTX 480 if you want the fastest single GPU setup and won't do SLI. if you want to SLI sure you can get 2 GTX 480s but you might want to look into 2 GTX 465s instead. Much cheaper and the performance of 2 GTX 470s.
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Ok, I appreciate everyone's input. You all have helped me reach my decision, I have decided on one gtx 480. My reasons are this,

1)Total cost involved. 2 470s cost $200 more than a single 480 on the egg. If i buy 2 470s, that means I would have to buy two water blocks. Water blocks are expensive.

1.2)If I buy 2 470s, according to this psu calculator, I will need to upgrade my power supply. I just bought this power supply 3 months ago.

Cost of 470 SLI setup:
2x470s = $700
2xEK waterblocks= $200
1xCorsair hx1000= $230
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Total = $1130 + shipping

Cost of 480 setup:
1x480 = $500(on the egg)
1xEK waterblock = $100
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Total = $600 + shipping

2)At this point in time I have no need for the power provided by a sli 470 setup since the 480 handles pretty much everything thrown at it.
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Ok, I appreciate everyone's input. You all have helped me reach my decision, I have decided on one gtx 480. My reasons are this,

1)Total cost involved. 2 470s cost $200 more than a single 480 on the egg. If i buy 2 470s, that means I would have to buy two water blocks. Water blocks are expensive.

1.2)If I buy 2 470s, according to this psu calculator, I will need to upgrade my power supply. I just bought this power supply 3 months ago.

Cost of 470 SLI setup:
2x470s = $700
2xEK waterblocks= $200
1xCorsair hx1000= $230
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Total = $1130 + shipping

Cost of 480 setup:
1x480 = $500(on the egg)
1xEK waterblock = $100
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Total = $600 + shipping

2)At this point in time I have no need for the power provided by a sli 470 setup since the 480 handles pretty much everything thrown at it.
You got it...OC that bad boy like mad and post some pics here when you get it. Grats man
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oh ya and jcde and fat italian thanks for the input, + rep.
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If GTX470 cant play a game same goes for GTX480. 10-20% more performance its not going to make a game from unplayable to smooth and playable. Save 150$ and got GTX470$. GTX480 is what 20% faster and once you overclock them the same the gap is much smaller less then 10% and in the end they both have ~ same max oc if you unlock the GTX470 bios for more voltage.
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great choice! 480 is the way to go! U will know that u have the best possible single gpu card available! order that sucker and put it under water asap!
 
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If GTX470 cant play a game same goes for GTX480. 10-20% more performance its not going to make a game from unplayable to smooth and playable. Save 150$ and got GTX470$. GTX480 is what 20% faster and once you overclock them the same the gap is much smaller less then 10% and in the end they both have ~ same max oc if you unlock the GTX470 bios for more voltage.
This is true to an extent, just remember that the 470 will also hit a point of diminishing returns after a certain OC because it has 32 less cores than a 480; also, having an extra 250 MB of frame buffer will help at higher resolutions (not that the 1280 MB of the 470 isn't already more than enough).

The point is, yeah, to a degree a 470 can OC as much as a 480; but because the 480 already maintains a higher default clock and more cores, it will pretty much ALWAYS be able to clock higher/perform better + faster than a 470. Not that it's a huge performance disparity, but it is what it is nonetheless.

Sure, you don't need a 900 core/2200 memory on the 480, but you can attain that a lot easier with one than you could on a 470, even under water. You'll hit a point where simply increasing voltage won't maintain stability on a 470, trust me (i've got friends who have experienced this with 470's under water...).
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If GTX470 cant play a game same goes for GTX480. 10-20% more performance its not going to make a game from unplayable to smooth and playable. Save 150$ and got GTX470$. GTX480 is what 20% faster and once you overclock them the same the gap is much smaller less then 10% and in the end they both have ~ same max oc if you unlock the GTX470 bios for more voltage.
Is there a physical difference in the 470 and 480 gpu? or is it similar to how the core i7 920 and the core i7 975 are the EXACT same processor except the 920 has the multiplier locked at 20/ 21 with turbo. If so can you provide a link to where you learned this information? Thanks
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