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hahaha instead of making fun of all the people that bought the 980x, lets make fun of all the people that bought the 975. the 975 sells for $980 and the 980x sells for $1000. i don't think i can describe how retarded those people are.
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Go take your AMD fanboyism somewhere else.
Why because I don't want to spend a gagillion dollars on a processor? K Intel fanboy.
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You know, when the 980x was released, some people (like me) said that a DUAL mobo with 2 i7 quad core chips would end up being better. Which, apparently, wasn't the case, since it was slightly higher priced, well, if this is $500 extra and it was only a small difference ...

I bet DUAL mobo with 2 quad core i7s is cheaper and performs better !

Until someone comes up with the actual price of dual quad mobo i7s.
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You know, when the 980x was released, some people (like me) said that a DUAL mobo with 2 i7 quad core chips would end up being better. Which, apparently, wasn't the case, since it was slightly higher priced, well, if this is $500 extra and it was only a small difference ...

I bet DUAL mobo with 2 quad core i7s is cheaper and performs better !

Until someone comes up with the actual price of dual quad mobo i7s.
Firstly, I highly doubt the 990X will be significantly more expensive than the 980X. It's likely a replacement, made for the same price point.

Secondly, you cannot use i7s in a dual-processor configuration; they don't have enough QPI buses. You need to use higher end Xeons.
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You're right, it doesn't. But if it takes a $1000 cpu to achieve ultimate performance, then that's the pursuit of performance.


Again, you're right: Nobody wants their hardware to cost any more than necessary. But for those determined (ie: pursuing) to have top-of-the-line performance, these $1000 cpus are the only option.


Do I have any extreme edition chips? No. Did I do my research and save my money to get the best possible computer for my budget and needs? Yes. The sooner you learn that there's more to performance than being thrify and scacrifing power to save money the sooner you'll blend in 'round here.


Oh yes there is: Intel likes easy profits and plenty of people don't mind paying that kind of money. "Sane" overclockers don't set world records. But in the end, you missed the entire point of my original post: These cpus ARE worth it for some people. These cpus ARE the ultimate answer for people in the pursuit of performance.

I understand what you're saying: Similar performance can be had for a lot less if one is patient and smart enough. I agree. But all the idiots scoffing and complaining about how there is no legitimate or justifiable use for such a cpu are completely and utterly wrong.


Probably. But you have to remember that pentiums had larger caches and a shorter pipe lengths, meaning they were faster clock for clock... in addition to being able to oc higher.
So I guess in order to be a proper overclocker you have to be up to your eyeballs in debt?


Sorry dude but I just can't take you seriously. IF you think you can feel free to try to convince me that there's enough of a performance boost to warrant the excessive price tag. My PM box is only half full.
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Why because I don't want to spend a gagillion dollars on a processor? K Intel fanboy.
lol you're calling me an intel fanboy because I'm not telling people to suck an AMD chip's wang.

Hey stupid. Look down at my sig rig.
Edited by TestECull - 6/12/10 at 2:10pm
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Interesting.

But can it run Crysis?
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They would be people who are after solely the e-peen. Or maybe a hint of more dollars than sense.

Those world records are nice and all but they're useless as the chips don't last more than an hour or two and they're still not quite stable.

It's like building a car that can do 8.45's in the quarter but would explode if you tried to go down to Burger King and clog up your arteries at three in the morning. Amusing to watch, takes a fair bit of skill to do, but in the end is utterly useless.
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So I guess in order to be a proper overclocker you have to be up to your eyeballs in debt?


Sorry dude but I just can't take you seriously.
No, but if you want to reach 7GHz, you better have an unlocked multi. Unlocked multis come in handy for extreme overclocking.

You're basing your entire argument around pragmatism -- if an overclock cannot be sustained for 24/7 use, you don't see the point of it. By your logic, nobody should attempt to set a world record of any sort. You said it yourself -- they're amusing to watch and take a fair bit of skill to achieve. Why can't that be reason enough? Extreme overclocking furthers our hobby and puts the overclocking community in the limelight because a lot of these events are sponsored by Intel and AMD.
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No, but if you want to reach 7GHz, you better have an unlocked multi. Unlocked multis come in handy for extreme overclocking.

You're basing your entire argument around pragmatism -- if an overclock cannot be sustained for 24/7 use, you don't see the point of it. By your logic, nobody should attempt to set a world record of any sort. You said it yourself -- they're amusing to watch and take a fair bit of skill to achieve. Why can't that be reason enough? Extreme overclocking furthers our hobby and puts the overclocking community in the limelight because a lot of these events are sponsored by Intel and AMD.
Strange you mention that...isn't the current world record held by a chip that does not have an unlocked multiplier?


And doesn't AMD offer unlocked multi chips capable of 7GHz for a measly C-note? I could have sworn they did. Oh, wait, I'm wrong. They also offer one for a measly 80 bucks or so.


I wouldn't have a problem with the extreme price tag if there was an extreme performance jump to warrant it. I'm talking running Crysis at 1080P while emulating a PS3 at 60FPS and running two forums type of performance jump, as nothing less would warrant the massive price hike. But there just isn't enough of a jump to warrant buying it on a performance standpoint. There's barely a performance jump at all AFAIK. And you can buy 7+GHz unlocked multi chips for under a 100 bucks so I can't fathom why you'd want one for extreme overclocking.

Like I said the only reason someone would buy one is for the e-peen of it. IF I were in the game to hit 7+ ghz, I sure as hell wouldn't be spending a thousand bucks on a CPU I'm going to annihilate in one night. I could get ten AMD chips for the same price and go for 10 tries.
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Strange you mention that...isn't the current world record held by a chip that does not have an unlocked multiplier?


And doesn't AMD offer unlocked multi chips capable of 7GHz for a measly C-note? I could have sworn they did. Oh, wait, I'm wrong. They also offer one for a measly 80 bucks or so.


I wouldn't have a problem with the extreme price tag if there was an extreme performance jump to warrant it. I'm talking running Crysis at 1080P while emulating a PS3 at 60FPS and running two forums type of performance jump, as nothing less would warrant the massive price hike. But there just isn't enough of a jump to warrant buying it on a performance standpoint. There's barely a performance jump at all AFAIK. And you can buy 7+GHz unlocked multi chips for under a 100 bucks so I can't fathom why you'd want one for extreme overclocking.

Like I said the only reason someone would buy one is for the e-peen of it. IF I were in the game to hit 7+ ghz, I sure as hell wouldn't be spending a thousand bucks on a CPU I'm going to annihilate in one night. I could get ten AMD chips for the same price and go for 10 tries.
It's unfair to compare the unlocked multi chips of AMD with that of Intel chips. Completely different architectures. A handful of overclockers have managed to top 7GHz with Phenom II chips (the entire top 5 list on CPU-Z is above 7GHz) while only one (AFAIK) has achieved the same feat with an Intel i7 chip.

And yeah, you're right, some crazy talented bastard reached 7.16GHz with an i7 920 (I hope you know I was referring to i7 extreme overclocking and not overclocking in general...obviously those Celerons take the cake in terms of highest possible frequency).
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Nº 1 : KkWong@Team hk-Centralfield reached 7161.88 MHz with an Intel Core i7 920 (45 nm) [Details]
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Still, I don't think this takes anything away from the extreme overclockers using EE chips. How many i7 920's do you think KkWong had to sift through until he found his golden 7GHz chip? That's still a ridiculous amount of dough that's been spent. I would have to imagine that it would take a substantially lower amount of higher-binned EE chips to sift through to get the same result (I don't see any 32nm CPU's on top of the CPU-Z records yet...weird...). Maybe you're right in that the prices of the EE's are still prohibitively expensive for this, but why must the people who buy them be labeled stupid? If they have the money, why not? If people are making loads of money, there comes a point where it doesn't even matter what and how much they spend it on. It's unfair to call these people stupid when they know exactly what they're buying and how much they're spending. Maybe they feel like keeping as much money as they can away from the gold-digger wife...

Also, you're antagonizing certain members of this community with your blanket statements, like AdmiralThrawn who posted earlier in this thread with his i7 975 and his tri-SLI GTX 480's. We're all a part of OCN here...
Edited by decimator - 6/12/10 at 3:05pm
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I wouldn't have a problem with the extreme price tag if there was an extreme performance jump to warrant it. I'm talking running Crysis at 1080P while emulating a PS3 at 60FPS and running two forums type of performance jump, as nothing less would warrant the massive price hike. But there just isn't enough of a jump to warrant buying it on a performance standpoint. There's barely a performance jump at all AFAIK. And you can buy 7+GHz unlocked multi chips for under a 100 bucks so I can't fathom why you'd want one for extreme overclocking.

Like I said the only reason someone would buy one is for the e-peen of it. IF I were in the game to hit 7+ ghz, I sure as hell wouldn't be spending a thousand bucks on a CPU I'm going to annihilate in one night. I could get ten AMD chips for the same price and go for 10 tries.
Cheers to that! Dambed if I wouldn't pay a 1.5 Gs for a proc that would rip the balls off of anything I throw at it..... but this for everyday shniz.... Meh.

The day of the uber machine is out, except for style pionts. More so since people like us are yeilding much better results with what we have and can afford. With the right motherboard you can really bleed a processor these days. Is there even many apps theaded for six cores anyway?
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