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Currently formatting my Agility 60GB, going to benchmark it as soon as it's done. I'm not sure if it might be invalid though, since it won't be a boot drive.
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Damn, these write numbers are awful.
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Damn, these write numbers are awful.
Actually looks pretty normal for an Indilinx Barefoot controller, what controller is it plugged into? (i see you have it on an ICH10R)

Aweful is strong language when you consider that an HDD is getting 0.5 to 1MB a second, it's still 10 to 20x faster then an HDD...

Anyway I'll see how you've done in the rankings compared to other Indilinx-based drives

Your basic 4K writes actually look better then ekko but since he's on AHCI his 64Thrd numbers are better...

Does the controller you have it attached to have an AHCI mode?
Any reason you're not using the ICH10R's excellent AHCI support?

Assuming you're using the P5Q Pro for a test/bench/main desktop
Are you still on Vista on that one? (that's what it says on your system info)
(Looking through the manual for P5Q Pro Now)
Looks like it has a second controller chip the Sil5723
Just checking ports...
The Sil5723 ports are labelled SATA_E1 and SATA_E2 and are nearest the edge of the board...
(you're not using those ones are you? I only ask because the driver is shown as pciide, which I think if you're on the intel ICH10R in IDE mode it shows intelide)
Edited by TheDreadedGMan - 6/21/10 at 9:10pm
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@Gman

I'll try your suggestion of switching to the GSATA ports.

I noticed with Raid:
GSATA - Capped at 149read, 109write
SB850 - Capped at 214read, 207write.


Going to try with SSD now.
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in a couple weeks when i finish my wc loop im going to be doing a fresh install, my ssd isnt in ahci mode.... and i cant swap over without it not booting because of a windows error, so ill swap that, update the firmware at the same time and post some results, ocz agility[1]

my numbers atm that you should not put in are

186.59 .. 91.07
26.91 .. 6.87
28.97 .. 6.28
0.144 .. 0.611
76 .. 22
144

do not use those or anything, i have atleast 20 tabs open, loads of stuff going on that ssd which should be affecting the results and im in the wrong mode, and the out of the box firmware
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I mean it sucks compared to others in the rankings. If I ever get an SSD for my desktop I'm going with an Intel X25 series. Anyway, this Agility is enough faster than an HDD and consumes enough less power that I think it was a worthwhile buy for my laptop... when it gets here. Lenovo sure takes their own sweet time processing orders.



I'm not up on drive technology, so maybe I don't know the difference between IDE and AHCI... I mean, I really don't. Power supplies and keyboards are more my shtick. I think someone mentioned having to reformat to switch between the two... Sometimes I don't want to do.
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@Gman

I'll try your suggestion of switching to the GSATA ports.

I noticed with Raid:
GSATA - Capped at 149read, 109write
SB850 - Capped at 214read, 207write.


Going to try with SSD now.
Yeah it goes against my zen to suggest using a JMicron-based controller, but in this case, it gets you AHCI support which might be worth it, although those caps sound nasty, so you might just be best off with IDE mode...
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in a couple weeks when i finish my wc loop im going to be doing a fresh install, my ssd isnt in ahci mode.... and i cant swap over without it not booting because of a windows error, so ill swap that, update the firmware at the same time and post some results, ocz agility[1]

my numbers atm that you should not put in are

186.59 .. 91.07
26.91 .. 6.87
28.97 .. 6.28
0.144 .. 0.611
76 .. 22
144

do not use those or anything, i have atleast 20 tabs open, loads of stuff going on that ssd which should be affecting the results and im in the wrong mode, and the out of the box firmware
You can switch windows from IDE to AHCI mode in the registry, so you don't get the blue screen at boot: here is the fix from Microsoft

Pretty easy fix, you open up the registry and edit one value from 3 to 0
(which causes the AHCI driver to load)

If you want to enter those values into the spreadsheet, you'll need to grab a screenshot, and then either fill in the form, or post what storage controller you have the SSD attached to.

EDIT: Also the easiest way to copy the TEXT values is to go into the edit menu on AS SSD Benchmark, and click Copy, it formats it nicely and gets all the values, including version, drivername, offset etc
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I mean it sucks compared to others in the rankings. If I ever get an SSD for my desktop I'm going with an Intel X25 series. Anyway, this Agility is enough faster than an HDD and consumes enough less power that I think it was a worthwhile buy for my laptop... when it gets here. Lenovo sure takes their own sweet time processing orders.



I'm not up on drive technology, so maybe I don't know the difference between IDE and AHCI... I mean, I really don't. Power supplies and keyboards are more my shtick. I think someone mentioned having to reformat to switch between the two... Sometimes I don't want to do.
hmm well I just answered the how to switch from IDE to AHCI mode, in the post above this one, so I won't post that again...

Basically AHCI is a slightly more advanced version of IDE, which supports:
1. Better power management
2. Hot swapping (eSATA etc) (only on some controllers)
3. Native Command Queuing

The 3rd item NCQ is what makes the performance difference, so the controller can send 32 or 64 commands at a time to the SSD or HDD, and the drive can decide the fastest way to service those commands, which helps when the system is under load, and a lot of disk read/writes are waiting.

The Drive itself needs to support NCQ too, I'm not sure if the Indilinx Barefoot does support it, but if so, your 4K-64Thrd numbers should improve.

However in day-to-day usage, one of the more annoying things about AHCI mode IMO is that Windows displays your drive as Hot-removable, you know the "Safely remove device" icon next to the clock... yes, I have removed C: once, accidentally and that was not sweet.
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So just change that registry value, switch from IDE to AHCI in BIOS and that's it? No hidden steps the support page skips over? Because I've been burned by those pages and hasty advice before.
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