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It's a shame to lose my crown lol. Guess I'll have to sell my other X25 now and just use the Momentus
    
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It's a shame to lose my crown lol. Guess I'll have to sell my other X25 now and just use the Momentus
Yeah, it was sweet while it lasted, those RealSSD C300s are FAST, perhaps you could sell your drives and buy one?

I myself don't really care about being "first" but it's sweet while it lasts.
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Yeah, it was sweet while it lasted, those RealSSD C300s are FAST, perhaps you could sell your drives and buy one?

I myself don't really care about being "first" but it's sweet while it lasts.
Bah those crucial drives are cheating. They cost almost as much for one as I paid for both of my X25s

My initial testing with the Momentus XT has been neat. The read/write speeds are on par with a 2.5" 7200RPM drive, but I'm getting reported access times between 1-2ms Good stuff.
    
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Bah those crucial drives are cheating. They cost almost as much for one as I paid for both of my X25s

My initial testing with the Momentus XT has been neat. The read/write speeds are on par with a 2.5" 7200RPM drive, but I'm getting reported access times between 1-2ms Good stuff.
Now if they had some way of using the SSD part of the XT to buffer the writes as well it would be sweet... They surely would be convenient, since you don't need to split up your drives if you're lazy and just prefer to have C: for everything...
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If AMD, NVidia, JMicron, LSI, Adaptec, Marvell, and Silicon Image would get their asses in gear and support TRIM in their drivers then we wouldn't need to bother.

Since you've actually installed the AMD driver, I'm not sure on the best method of uninstalling it... if it was my own computer I would just fire up regedit, make sure that the msahci entry is 0 instead of 3, and uninstall the amd driver.

But I'm not sure if that's the correct procedure, since I've never actually uninstalled a storage controller driver...

Also RAID mode is not the same as AHCI mode.. just in case your board has both modes.

Remember you've always got that IDE mode fallback, you can always start up in IDE mode if your PC becomes "unbootable"
I appreciate your response. Maybe I could uninstall the AMD driver in Device Manager and then do the regedit thing to enable the MSAHCI driver. After I do this, is there some way to know that TRIM is in fact working, like with a program or something.
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I appreciate your response. Maybe I could uninstall the AMD driver in Device Manager and then do the regedit thing to enable the MSAHCI driver. After I do this, is there some way to know that TRIM is in fact working, like with a program or something.
I would do what you said, uninstall the AMD driver, switch on the MSAHCI driver, and restart, if it doesn't boot, switch to IDE mode, boot up and make sure your MSAHCI driver switch took, and then try again.



Sadly no, there is no way to "confirm" TRIM is working on all levels

You can confirm Windows is not not sending the commands (yes double negative)
just run (from a cmd.exe prompt):
Code:
fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify
0 means it is not not sending the commands
1 means it is not sending the commands

You can confirm your drive supports TRIM, but you can't confirm if the command is being sent, received and acted upon...
Confirm your drive supports trim by using either the Intel toolbox (for Intel Drives) or the Indilinx status tool (for Indilinx-based drives only)

The standard way of testing the simple controller drives (aka not Sandforce) is to delete a large file then wait a few seconds and watch your HDD light.

As far as any other drives, who knows...
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I would do what you said, uninstall the AMD driver, switch on the MSAHCI driver, and restart, if it doesn't boot, switch to IDE mode, boot up and make sure your MSAHCI driver switch took, and then try again.



Sadly no, there is no way to "confirm" TRIM is working on all levels

You can confirm Windows is not not sending the commands (yes double negative)
just run (from a cmd.exe prompt):
Code:
fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify
0 means it is not not sending the commands
1 means it is not sending the commands

You can confirm your drive supports TRIM, but you can't confirm if the command is being sent, received and acted upon...
Confirm your drive supports trim by using either the Intel toolbox (for Intel Drives) or the Indilinx status tool (for Indilinx-based drives only)

The standard way of testing the simple controller drives (aka not Sandforce) is to delete a large file then wait a few seconds and watch your HDD light.

As far as any other drives, who knows...
Interesting. I tried running that command with the AMD drivers still installed. It returned:

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DisableDeleteNotify = 0
That would mean it's not not sending the commands, in other words it's sending the TRIM command, right? Two negatives make a positive after all. So TRIM is working? Is that the correct conclusion? Should I just leave the SATA drives alone then, do you think?
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Interesting. I tried running that command with the AMD drivers still installed. It returned: 0

That would mean it's not not sending the command, in other words it's sending the TRIM command, right? So TRIM is work? Two negatives make a positive after all. Is that the correct conclusion? Should I just leave the SATA drives alone then, do you think?
Perhaps I didn't make it clear.

Windows sends the command by default, when DisableDeleteNotify = 0.

BUT THE DRIVERS DON'T pass the command on to the drive.

Except for MSAHCI, MS PCIIDE, MS INTELIDE, and Intel's new RST 9.6 driver.

Until all the other companies get their collective asses into gear, the TRIM commands Windows 7 sends out are being blocked at the driver.
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does my score seem a bit low?
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does my score seem a bit low?
Just a tad. I've read that some people have had issues with the SB750/SB710 chipsets and SSD's. Also, AMD chipsets don't perform as well as Intel chipsets when it comes to SSD performance.

Do you have Cool and Quiet on or are you running in low power mode by chance?
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