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post #191 of 3820
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Originally Posted by TheDreadedGMan View Post
Ok with raid and an SSD together make sure you're running intel's latest driver.

Also for future reference, CCleaner's wipe free space is quite possibily the worst thing you could do, it writes random data several times to the free space on the drive, wasting write cycles and punishing the drive, it's designed as a security tool for magnetic drives that retain the data after delete, wipe free space is to remove sensitive data.
ok. what do you suggest?

and as far as i know, i have intel's latest driver.
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ok. what do you suggest?

and as far as i know, i have intel's latest driver.
I suggest browsing the OCZ support forum...

But what I would do (Use the OCZ Wiper tool to clear out empty blocks):
  • Optional: Download new 1.6 Firmware upgrade
  • Read results on: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ith-Wiper-0525
  • Looks like Wiper works best with Microsoft built-in AHCI drivers, or IDE mode of course... so you might want to uninstall Intel's driver temporarily
  • Download Wiper from here: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...rase-and-Wiper
  • Backup your SSD to a "system image" using Win 7 backup
  • Burn the Windows backup "repair disc" when prompted, so you can restore the backup if needed.
  • Run Wiper
  • Optional: Update the Firmware to 1.6
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actually i think i may have changed my mind... look at my score. Do you think i got a bad SSD?

also, HDtune says my SSD has 88 bad sectors.... :/
I've heard that some of the shipped Sandforce drives from OCZ are unclean to start with and should be "wiped" before use...

Anyway there is an excellent guide on how to use Secure Erase on Sandforce drives here:
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...o-use-HDDErase

I would suggest taking a Windows 7 System Image backup and burning the repair disc when prompted before erasing tho.

Also your numbers are not "BAD" persay, so if you're not confident with backups/restores, you shouldn't secure-erase your drive.
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First a basic overview:
Hard disk drives and solid state drives are connected via a SATA cable to a "controller"... which on most motherboards, is a part of a chip called the "South Bridge" since there are usually 2 chips, one north and one south (the north being the high-speed video card and memory controller), and the southbridge usually being the part that connects to SATA, USB, and other "low speed" devices.

In some newer designs the chips are combined, like the P55 and H55 chipsets, since the memory controller and (in some cases the PCI-Ex graphics controller) are handled by the CPU, there is not much for the "bridge" to do.

Also on quite a few boards these days, there are one or two extra controller chips, like in your case it sounds like they threw on a JMicron chip.

So, in your screenshot, and spreadsheet row, the "driver name" is nvstor64

That's the NVidia storage driver, so you're not using the JMicron, you're using an NVidia-controlled SATA port, attached to your Southbridge chip.

Over time your write speeds may drop because the nvstor64 driver does not support TRIM.

I would use the msahci driver for your system, unless you need the nvstor64 driver for a RAID array.
Hrmm... How would I do that? I know nothing about SSD's or HDD's for that matter.
 
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Hrmm... How would I do that? I know nothing about SSD's or HDD's for that matter.
hmm ok

well there are several ways of accomplishing a driver change.

I'm not sure of the exact best procedure for your computer.

I can describe it, but I can't guarantee you won't run into any issues

So:
  1. "Update" the driver for your nvidia controller
  2. Restart
  3. If Windows won't boot, switch to IDE mode

Detailed version of Step 1
  1. Open Device Manager (search from start menu if you can't find it)
  2. Expand "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers"
  3. Double-click the NVidia controller
  4. Click the "Driver" tab
  5. Click the "Update Driver..." button
  6. Click "Browse my computer for driver software"
  7. Click "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer"
  8. Choose "Standard AHCI 1.x Serial ATA Controller"
    • If that's not listed, cancel out, it's not possible.
  9. Click Next
  10. Click Close

Could be useful links if you run into any stop errors:
Registry enable msahci driver: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
Registry edit for atapi.sys: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954703

FINAL WORD:
If you don't feel confident with drivers do not proceed, and make a backup if you think you're going to lose everything.

Also if you can, screenshot the Device manager with the "Storage controllers" and "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" branches expanded
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hmm ok

well there are several ways of accomplishing a driver change.

I'm not sure of the exact best procedure for your computer.

I can describe it, but I can't guarantee you won't run into any issues

So:
  1. "Update" the driver for your nvidia controller
  2. Restart
  3. If Windows won't boot, switch to IDE mode

Detailed version of Step 1
  1. Open Device Manager (search from start menu if you can't find it)
  2. Expand "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers"
  3. Double-click the NVidia controller
  4. Click the "Driver" tab
  5. Click the "Update Driver..." button
  6. Click "Browse my computer for driver software"
  7. Click "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer"
  8. Choose "Standard AHCI 1.x Serial ATA Controller"
    • If that's not listed, cancel out, it's not possible.
  9. Click Next
  10. Click Close

Could be useful links if you run into any stop errors:
Registry enable msahci driver: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
Registry edit for atapi.sys: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954703

FINAL WORD:
If you don't feel confident with drivers do not proceed, and make a backup if you think you're going to lose everything.

Also if you can, screenshot the Device manager with the "Storage controllers" and "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" branches expanded
I thought I wanted to switch to the MSahci controller and not the nvidia one though? Or do I just need to update the Nvidia one?

Comfortable w/ drivers and whatnot, just new to HD stuffs.
 
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ummm, wow. My hard drives are messed up. It seems the boot manager for windows is on my raid array, but my system disc is C:\\ which is my SSD.

Windows won't boot in IDE or AHCI mode, so i'll have to run wiper in RAID mode. Which takes about 5 mins for 1%.

Just run wiper. I think my ICH8/R is holding me back. Got the latest everything and i've just run trim.


Edited by Boyboyd - 6/24/10 at 10:06am
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I've heard that some of the shipped Sandforce drives from OCZ are unclean to start with and should be "wiped" before use...

Anyway there is an excellent guide on how to use Secure Erase on Sandforce drives here:
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...o-use-HDDErase

I would suggest taking a Windows 7 System Image backup and burning the repair disc when prompted before erasing tho.

Also your numbers are not "BAD" persay, so if you're not confident with backups/restores, you shouldn't secure-erase your drive.
Yea but within one day, my write speeds have already decreased by half :/
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I thought I wanted to switch to the MSahci controller and not the nvidia one though? Or do I just need to update the Nvidia one?

Comfortable w/ drivers and whatnot, just new to HD stuffs.
hmm did you read the post you just replied too?
It is a detailed step-by-step on how to switch FROM nvstor64 (the Nvidia Driver) TO the standard MSAHCI driver...
Edited by TheDreadedGMan - 6/24/10 at 9:11pm
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ummm, wow. My hard drives are messed up. It seems the boot manager for windows is on my raid array, but my system disc is C:\\ which is my SSD.

Windows won't boot in IDE or AHCI mode, so i'll have to run wiper in RAID mode. Which takes about 5 mins for 1%.

Just run wiper. I think my ICH8/R is holding me back. Got the latest everything and i've just run trim.

Well based on this new screenshot you've halved you your write access time, and doubled your write score, and your overall score is now in the normal 200+ range for Indilinx-based drives, so I would say that Wiper did a pretty good job.

Yeah it's annoying how certain drives need to be the boot drive like your RAID array in this example.

I'll update your score eh? or should I put in a new entry so you can compare the old...
Just saw you already re-entered... excellent.
Edited by TheDreadedGMan - 6/24/10 at 9:09pm
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