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Well, that's exactly what Microsoft is doing with Vista. The whole kernel has been reorganized and rewritten to help prevent software from affecting the system in unsavory ways. In Vista, it should be much more difficult for unauthorized programs (like Viruses and Trojans) to affect the core of the OS and secretly harm your system. That's not all, of course. Microsoft has made it their aim to make life easier on developers by improving and simplifying the way software interfaces with the system and the underlying hardware. Naturally, performance has been a major concern, too.
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The new networking stack has a much bigger focus on security, working better with firewalls to allow much finer granularity of which applications can use network resources i
What's more, Media Center will support CableCard in Vista (with appropriate certified hardware), so it's possible to get hi-def TV over cable and not just via over-the-air broadcasts, which is the current limitation with all other PVR software, including Windows XP Media Center Edition.
n which ways, and it's made to stand up a lot better to network attacks. The built-in firewall in Vista is much more robust than the one included in XP Service Pack 2.
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The company says that anyone with a high-speed internet connection will immediately notice dramatic improvements in overall download speeds.
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No way! Look at that article and go back a page from where the link above takes you (second page overall) and you'll see that Vista has a built in benchmark! LOL! Thats so cool. And what's an FX-25?? (the screen shot shows that the person has that as his CPU....)

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The driver model of Vista has been totally changed. Many of the drivers that used to sit at the system (kernel) level are now at the user level, which means that when drivers fail, your whole system shouldn't crash. You should also be able to update most drivers without rebooting your system.
YES!!
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Itll be good if MS kills all that DRM crap they were gonna put on it like that stupid HDCP.
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Sounds pretty good...but remember they are gunna try to keep the problems and bugs quiet...we wont really know how it is until it comes
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Agreed J3r3my!!

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The DX10 graphics API will usher in unified vertex and pixel shaders, and introduce the concept of "geometry shaders" that can act on not just single vertices, but whole triangles and their adjacent vertices. Developers will be able to stream out data from the GPU and reuse it without needing the CPU to do a single thing, so a lot of the CPU load seen in current graphics drivers and games should be reduced. DX10 should allow for more flexible and granular graphics memory access, and in general allow GPUs to be far more flexible and powerful than before.
LOL just what we needed, with all these super high end GPUs and SLI and CrossFire making our systems highly CPU dependant, its good to see some load coming off of the CPU for a change.


EDIT/// Hey I just read something and it made me realize why Microsoft is releasing Halo 2 PC only for Vista, its not to make people switch over necessarily, its so that it can be fully DX10 compatible, which means that our Halo 2 PC should look a heck of a lot better than Halo 2 ever did on Xbox and that sounds plenty good to me
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No way! Look at that article and go back a page from where the link above takes you (second page overall) and you'll see that Vista has a built in benchmark! LOL! Thats so cool. And what's an FX-25?? (the screen shot shows that the person has that as his CPU....)



YES!!
Yea I saw that also, interesting. I know I personally have very high hopes for Vista seeing how XP is pretty much the Geo Metro of operating systems.
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Itll be good if MS kills all that DRM crap they were gonna put on it like that stupid HDCP.
HDCP is in Vista
Whats funny about HDCP is that no graphics cards curently avalable can support it. That includes that 7800x one just bought. With out HDCP support HD-DVDs run at 25% resolution of the original.
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there will be a non-HDCP version that will work just as well.
seriously, THINK. MS is NOT trying to screw us, they want what we want, you'll see once it comes out, until then, have faith in MS
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I wonder if the 64-bit version will have more of a performance gain over the 32-bit version than x64 has over XP... And maybe hardware manufacturers will support Vista more readily than they did x64.
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I wonder if the 64-bit version will have more of a performance gain over the 32-bit version than x64 has over XP... And maybe hardware manufacturers will support Vista more readily than they did x64.
Well Vista is supposed to be a true 64 bit environment, unlike the patch job XP 64 bit edition.
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Agreed J3r3my!!

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LOL just what we needed, with all these super high end GPUs and SLI and CrossFire making our systems highly CPU dependant, its good to see some load coming off of the CPU for a change.


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haha, i can't wait for gaming consoles to become completely obsolete, that should make everything cheaper for us pc gamers.
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